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Seems to be pretty widespread: All the usual ISPs (Cox, Comcast, Spectrum etc), Google itself, reddit, and even Twitter all seem to be showing the same spike. W

Seems to be pretty widespread: All the usual ISPs (Cox, Comcast, Spectrum etc), Google itself, reddit, and even Twitter all seem to be showing the same spike. Wonder what's causing this one. To be clear, Youtube isn't fully down (at least for me), but it's slow and unstable enough to effectively be unusable. I've been getting error codes in the middle of videos, something I haven't seen in months, if not years.

andrewstuart2 5y ago
So given the graphs of basically everything spiking on the downdetector home page, are we saying it's basically a majority of internet hiccuping?
- MisterSandman 5y ago
  Actually, isn't downdetector.ca a user-reported thing? So I imagine a ton of people were having issues with YouTube and thought it was their ISP (I know I did, I first checked speedtest-cli and the downdetector for Rogers)
  - ergot_vacation 5y ago
    This is a good point, and the disadvantage of crowd-sourcing it. There's no actual network analysis going on on DownDetector, so there's definitely room for some confusion if people blame the wrong thing. That said, the info here: http://www.internettrafficreport.com/namerica.htm http://www.internettrafficreport.com/namerica.htm definitely seems to suggest something beyond just youtube.
    - MisterSandman 5y ago
      It is a disadvantage, but it's also the best down detector there is. I think there are a couple of others that just ping websites to see if they're up, and very few websites actually go down down nowadays. Downdetector.com is meant to be an instantaneous sanity check of whether you should go unplug your router for the 3rd time today or not, and it's pretty great at that, even if it exaggerates a bit.
teeray 5y ago
Total speculation, but it kind of feels like a BGP thing
- ergot_vacation 5y ago
  That would be my amateur guess, but who knows. Way back in the day (2003 maybe?) there used to be a site called "Internet Health Report" or something similar where you could check all the interconnects between the major backbone networks when something like this happened. Sadly that's long gone, and I haven't seen anything similar since. EDIT: This seems to be the best we've got now: http://www.internettrafficreport.com/namerica.htm http://www.internettrafficreport.com/namerica.htm. Lot of 0s on there ATM.
- andrewstuart2 5y ago
  Routing protocols or some supporting protocols are about all I can think of that would have that kind of potential.
trinovantes 5y ago
If it's this many unrelated services, it might be a BGP hijack
LeoPanthera 5y ago
That always seems to happen on downdetector but all of the other services listed as having problems seem to be working fine for me. Except YouTube.
- andrewstuart2 5y ago
  Could be that packet loss and retransmission might be more noticeable when you have large data streams?

andrewstuart2 5y ago

So given the graphs of basically everything spiking on the downdetector home page, are we saying it's basically a majority of internet hiccuping?

MisterSandman 5y ago
Actually, isn't downdetector.ca a user-reported thing? So I imagine a ton of people were having issues with YouTube and thought it was their ISP (I know I did, I first checked speedtest-cli and the downdetector for Rogers)
- ergot_vacation 5y ago
  This is a good point, and the disadvantage of crowd-sourcing it. There's no actual network analysis going on on DownDetector, so there's definitely room for some confusion if people blame the wrong thing. That said, the info here: http://www.internettrafficreport.com/namerica.htm http://www.internettrafficreport.com/namerica.htm definitely seems to suggest something beyond just youtube.
  - MisterSandman 5y ago
    It is a disadvantage, but it's also the best down detector there is. I think there are a couple of others that just ping websites to see if they're up, and very few websites actually go down down nowadays. Downdetector.com is meant to be an instantaneous sanity check of whether you should go unplug your router for the 3rd time today or not, and it's pretty great at that, even if it exaggerates a bit.

teeray 5y ago

Total speculation, but it kind of feels like a BGP thing

ergot_vacation 5y ago
That would be my amateur guess, but who knows. Way back in the day (2003 maybe?) there used to be a site called "Internet Health Report" or something similar where you could check all the interconnects between the major backbone networks when something like this happened. Sadly that's long gone, and I haven't seen anything similar since. EDIT: This seems to be the best we've got now: http://www.internettrafficreport.com/namerica.htm http://www.internettrafficreport.com/namerica.htm. Lot of 0s on there ATM.
andrewstuart2 5y ago
Routing protocols or some supporting protocols are about all I can think of that would have that kind of potential.

trinovantes 5y ago

If it's this many unrelated services, it might be a BGP hijack

LeoPanthera 5y ago

That always seems to happen on downdetector but all of the other services listed as having problems seem to be working fine for me. Except YouTube.

andrewstuart2 5y ago
Could be that packet loss and retransmission might be more noticeable when you have large data streams?