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Heroku FTW. (http://heroku.com/ http://heroku.com/) Especially since you'd be supporting a YC startup and they are great for beginners because of their pretty

Heroku FTW. (http://heroku.com/ http://heroku.com/) Especially since you'd be supporting a YC startup and they are great for beginners because of their pretty powerful in-browser editor. You don't even need your own dev environnment if you don't want. Also the service is free during beta. Not sure if the beta is still closed, but ping me if it is as I'm sure I have some invites available.

matt1 18y ago
I'm checking it out now. Looks very cool. I added myself to their waiting list, but it says the average wait time is less than a day. Thanks for the pointer. Edit: Already got the invite. Man they're good.
ichverstehe 18y ago
But don't miss out on some kind of 'real' development environment. The usual kind of stuff. Basically it goes down to: 1. Learn to use a real editor. I don't care which. As long as it is either vim or emacs. And maybe TextMate. 2. Get to know your way around the command line. Really. 3. Use a VCS, may I propose: Git Sure, Heroku got a nice in-browser editor, but that is not the main point, honestly, TextEdit provides more or less the same functionality. The main point is easy as f*ck deployment. If you are using Git, a simple `git push` will be enough to deploy, run migrations and restart server. (http://blog.heroku.com/archives/2008/3/3/api_and_external_git_access/ http://blog.heroku.com/archives/2008/3/3/api_and_external_gi...) Damn it, when is somebody creating a clone of that functionality? It is so pretty. git push, git push, git push.
- pius 18y ago
  Hmm, didn't realize they allowed you to use local development tools. Question for people who are using Heroku: Is it fair to call it a tool for beginning Rails developers or does it have benefits for "advanced" Rails devs? This blog post is definitely making me take a second look at the service.
  - ichverstehe 18y ago
    It's dirt nice and easy for putting online smallish stuff. And word is that support for Sinatra is soon to come. Now, that is kick ass.
    - pius 18y ago
      Ah, cool. Hopefully they're adding support for all Rack-based apps and not just Sinatra. That'd be sweet.
  - j4s0n 18y ago
    I guess it depends on the need, i was able to hack in 2 proof of concept app some 2 months ago with it. which later end up as production apps. I've been trying to suggest heroku to a friend of mine to use it to introduce ruby/rails to his students since the amount of time to setup an environment is really crazy and sometimes incomprehensible for new students trying to learn ruby/rails.

matt1 18y ago

I'm checking it out now. Looks very cool. I added myself to their waiting list, but it says the average wait time is less than a day. Thanks for the pointer. Edit: Already got the invite. Man they're good.

ichverstehe 18y ago

But don't miss out on some kind of 'real' development environment. The usual kind of stuff. Basically it goes down to: 1. Learn to use a real editor. I don't care which. As long as it is either vim or emacs. And maybe TextMate. 2. Get to know your way around the command line. Really. 3. Use a VCS, may I propose: Git Sure, Heroku got a nice in-browser editor, but that is not the main point, honestly, TextEdit provides more or less the same functionality. The main point is easy as f*ck deployment. If you are using Git, a simple `git push` will be enough to deploy, run migrations and restart server. (http://blog.heroku.com/archives/2008/3/3/api_and_external_git_access/ http://blog.heroku.com/archives/2008/3/3/api_and_external_gi...) Damn it, when is somebody creating a clone of that functionality? It is so pretty. git push, git push, git push.

pius 18y ago
Hmm, didn't realize they allowed you to use local development tools. Question for people who are using Heroku: Is it fair to call it a tool for beginning Rails developers or does it have benefits for "advanced" Rails devs? This blog post is definitely making me take a second look at the service.
- ichverstehe 18y ago
  It's dirt nice and easy for putting online smallish stuff. And word is that support for Sinatra is soon to come. Now, that is kick ass.
  - pius 18y ago
    Ah, cool. Hopefully they're adding support for all Rack-based apps and not just Sinatra. That'd be sweet.
- j4s0n 18y ago
  I guess it depends on the need, i was able to hack in 2 proof of concept app some 2 months ago with it. which later end up as production apps. I've been trying to suggest heroku to a friend of mine to use it to introduce ruby/rails to his students since the amount of time to setup an environment is really crazy and sometimes incomprehensible for new students trying to learn ruby/rails.