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Companies are allowed to provide dangerous products. It's just that they can't do so without warning people and (potentially) without changing designs or taking

Companies are allowed to provide dangerous products. It's just that they can't do so without warning people and (potentially) without changing designs or taking other measures to protect people from the harm, unless the danger is already common knowledge.

oh_sigh 5y ago
Alcohol labels don't warn people about increased odds of colorectal, liver, or esophageal cancer....at least any of the labels I've read. All they say is don't operate machinery and don't drink it while pregnant.
munk-a 5y ago
Well - it depends on the product. Do recall that until recently MJ was illegal across the board and the US Federal Government is still against legality. It's also illegal to own a tank. Honestly, companies are prohibited from selling dangerous products unless there is some reason they are viewed as being dangerous but of more value being legal than illegal. While libertarianism is rife in America - there is no inherent right to trade in dangerous products. If I decided to sell needles full of deadly poison at my store - even if very clearly labeled and even if I sat you down for a twenty minute presentation before each sale occurred - it's quite likely I'd be shut down.
- TheSpiceIsLife 5y ago
  Tiny niptick: > It's also illegal to own a tank. It isn't. It's estimated there are around 1000 private tanks in the US, and there are tank dealers in the US, UK, and Australia. Surely other places too. Here's some in Australia https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-19/tinkering-with-tanks-and-preserving-australian-farming-history/8017194 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-19/tinkering-with-tanks-...
  - jfoutz 5y ago
    my great uncle owned an armored car when I was a child. He lived a few states away so I only saw pictures. British Ferret. Apparently it still had the guns, but they were spiked, so they would never fire again. Also, he tried to explain how you shift, but I never quite understood it. the clutch was a lever, with some sort of handle to spin the flywheel up or down to the next gear.
    - wearywanderer 5y ago
      Most privately owned tanks have demilitarized guns, though I think not all. But with the right paperwork in America, it should be legal to put working artillery in your legally owned tank. There is a fair bit of working artillery privately owned in America already, but you'd have to find a gun that is compatible with installation on your tank. Of course this is not a cheap hobby, and if you want explosive shells you'd need to do paperwork for each shell. Even if you only want to fire inert projectiles, it's not as though you can buy those at walmart.
      - shard 5y ago
        Here is a place in Texas where you can rent a tank, drive it, and shoot it: https://www.drivetanks.com/ https://www.drivetanks.com/ Here are the prices for the Sherman tank: SHERMAN TANK $1,850.00 – Drive the tank $950.00 – Ride the tank, driven by a Cadre $2,800.00 – Drive & Shoot the tanks 76mm main gun (1 round) Here is a guy who rented a tank and shot it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqC2kJNdJjE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqC2kJNdJjE
- teawrecks 5y ago
  The point is that there exist products that are dangerous, yet still legal to sell given that they are sealed and labeled appropriately. The point was NOT that you're allowed to sell literally anything as long as you disclose the risks.

oh_sigh 5y ago

Alcohol labels don't warn people about increased odds of colorectal, liver, or esophageal cancer....at least any of the labels I've read. All they say is don't operate machinery and don't drink it while pregnant.

munk-a 5y ago

Well - it depends on the product. Do recall that until recently MJ was illegal across the board and the US Federal Government is still against legality. It's also illegal to own a tank. Honestly, companies are prohibited from selling dangerous products unless there is some reason they are viewed as being dangerous but of more value being legal than illegal. While libertarianism is rife in America - there is no inherent right to trade in dangerous products. If I decided to sell needles full of deadly poison at my store - even if very clearly labeled and even if I sat you down for a twenty minute presentation before each sale occurred - it's quite likely I'd be shut down.

TheSpiceIsLife 5y ago
Tiny niptick: > It's also illegal to own a tank. It isn't. It's estimated there are around 1000 private tanks in the US, and there are tank dealers in the US, UK, and Australia. Surely other places too. Here's some in Australia https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-19/tinkering-with-tanks-and-preserving-australian-farming-history/8017194 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-19/tinkering-with-tanks-...
- jfoutz 5y ago
  my great uncle owned an armored car when I was a child. He lived a few states away so I only saw pictures. British Ferret. Apparently it still had the guns, but they were spiked, so they would never fire again. Also, he tried to explain how you shift, but I never quite understood it. the clutch was a lever, with some sort of handle to spin the flywheel up or down to the next gear.
  - wearywanderer 5y ago
    Most privately owned tanks have demilitarized guns, though I think not all. But with the right paperwork in America, it should be legal to put working artillery in your legally owned tank. There is a fair bit of working artillery privately owned in America already, but you'd have to find a gun that is compatible with installation on your tank. Of course this is not a cheap hobby, and if you want explosive shells you'd need to do paperwork for each shell. Even if you only want to fire inert projectiles, it's not as though you can buy those at walmart.
    - shard 5y ago
      Here is a place in Texas where you can rent a tank, drive it, and shoot it: https://www.drivetanks.com/ https://www.drivetanks.com/ Here are the prices for the Sherman tank: SHERMAN TANK $1,850.00 – Drive the tank $950.00 – Ride the tank, driven by a Cadre $2,800.00 – Drive & Shoot the tanks 76mm main gun (1 round) Here is a guy who rented a tank and shot it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqC2kJNdJjE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqC2kJNdJjE
teawrecks 5y ago
The point is that there exist products that are dangerous, yet still legal to sell given that they are sealed and labeled appropriately. The point was NOT that you're allowed to sell literally anything as long as you disclose the risks.