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Is it really toxic? It's pretty funny and not exactly offensive imo. Besides, you could just maintain a fork that was the same exact thing with a different name

by smabie 5y ago

Is it really toxic? It's pretty funny and not exactly offensive imo. Besides, you could just maintain a fork that was the same exact thing with a different name and a different readme. Though really, memes on a readme shouldn't affect technical decision making.

klyrs 5y ago
Calling people "virgins" for not using your library is toxic, and I wouldn't send this page to a junior, male of female. I dunno where you work, but this wouldn't fly with my employer (and yes, that impacts my technical decision making). And yeah -- you can fork it, and then maintain that fork. No thanks.
- dragontamer 5y ago
  In meme culture, the "virgin" is what everyone else is doing, and the "chad" is why whatever you're proposing is better. Its... not actually mean in the context of the meme. But... yeah, meme culture is weird. Its kind of comparable to South Park's "F Word" episode (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_F_Word_(South_Park) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_F_Word_(South_Park)). The words "virgin" and "chad" have changed meaning within the scope of the meme, must like how the F word changed meaning for the south park episode. But on the other hand: its silly to expect everyone else (especially people who aren't into meme culture) to understand the joke. Knowing how the words are interpreted outside of the meme is also important. -------- With that being said: I don't think anyone meming "Virgin or Chad" actually wants their code to be used professionally. Its a joke: and the code itself is likely a joke. I'm interested in reading over the .h to see how it works later, but I imagine that its probably got a bunch of weird stuff going on.
  - pseudalopex 5y ago
    Why isn't the meme the other way around? Because male virginity is stigmatized. Even within the scope of the meme.
    - dragontamer 5y ago
      I've been stigmatized more for having slanty eyes than being a virgin. I dunno, the whole virgin thing seems to be largely a joke. Even Rimuru Tempest gets superpowers (Great Sage) because he died on Earth as a 37 year old virgin. Or if anime references don't work... 40 year old virgin movies or whatever. It seems like one of the few thing you can poke fun at without people actually getting super serious about. -------- As I said elsewhere: I know there's a growing group of incels who are taking this virgin stuff very seriously. Literal violent acts because they feel like they feel like the chads are taking all of the women or whatever. But there's a larger group of people who are just innocently joking around with this meme. It's about context. Maybe if the incels become more popular, I'll hush up about these virgin jokes. But it hasn't really crossed my threshold quite yet.
      - Buge 5y ago
        >Or if anime references don't work... 40 year old virgin movies or whatever. Are you saying that movie doesn't stigmatize male virginity? From its wikipedia page: >The film was criticized by Harry Forbes of Catholic News Service for promoting "the false premise that there's something intrinsically wrong with an unmarried man being sexually inexperienced,"[41] and by political columnist Cal Thomas for being an example of societal decline in regards to "self-control or what was once known as purity."[42] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_40-Year-Old_Virgin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_40-Year-Old_Virgin
        dragontamer 5y ago
        If I remember the film correctly, his friends were a bunch of jackasses (in a comedic fashion), while the 40-year-old virgin was actually the nicest guy... Who best deserves the girl at the end. The female lead was also a virgin, and actually valued that in the main character. I mean, I guess it still falls on the trope of "the hero gets the girl" at the end, if that's what your problem is? A lot of what his friends do get in the way of him actually having a successful romantic experience with the female lead. ----------- I dunno, reading those reviews kinda reminds me of one review I read for Frozen: where they were critical about "Love is an Open Door" and failing to understand the satire. Sometimes there are messages behind the message...
- FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
  > I dunno where you work, but this wouldn't fly with my employer Maybe that's the point. Now the author's work only benefits the kind of people who won't be offended.
- cbsmith 5y ago
  The tone seems to have an implicit mocking of Chad-isms, so I'm not sure it really qualifies as toxic.

by smabie 5y ago

klyrs 5y ago

Calling people "virgins" for not using your library is toxic, and I wouldn't send this page to a junior, male of female. I dunno where you work, but this wouldn't fly with my employer (and yes, that impacts my technical decision making). And yeah -- you can fork it, and then maintain that fork. No thanks.

dragontamer 5y ago
In meme culture, the "virgin" is what everyone else is doing, and the "chad" is why whatever you're proposing is better. Its... not actually mean in the context of the meme. But... yeah, meme culture is weird. Its kind of comparable to South Park's "F Word" episode (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_F_Word_(South_Park) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_F_Word_(South_Park)). The words "virgin" and "chad" have changed meaning within the scope of the meme, must like how the F word changed meaning for the south park episode. But on the other hand: its silly to expect everyone else (especially people who aren't into meme culture) to understand the joke. Knowing how the words are interpreted outside of the meme is also important. -------- With that being said: I don't think anyone meming "Virgin or Chad" actually wants their code to be used professionally. Its a joke: and the code itself is likely a joke. I'm interested in reading over the .h to see how it works later, but I imagine that its probably got a bunch of weird stuff going on.
- pseudalopex 5y ago
  Why isn't the meme the other way around? Because male virginity is stigmatized. Even within the scope of the meme.
  - dragontamer 5y ago
    I've been stigmatized more for having slanty eyes than being a virgin. I dunno, the whole virgin thing seems to be largely a joke. Even Rimuru Tempest gets superpowers (Great Sage) because he died on Earth as a 37 year old virgin. Or if anime references don't work... 40 year old virgin movies or whatever. It seems like one of the few thing you can poke fun at without people actually getting super serious about. -------- As I said elsewhere: I know there's a growing group of incels who are taking this virgin stuff very seriously. Literal violent acts because they feel like they feel like the chads are taking all of the women or whatever. But there's a larger group of people who are just innocently joking around with this meme. It's about context. Maybe if the incels become more popular, I'll hush up about these virgin jokes. But it hasn't really crossed my threshold quite yet.
    - Buge 5y ago
      >Or if anime references don't work... 40 year old virgin movies or whatever. Are you saying that movie doesn't stigmatize male virginity? From its wikipedia page: >The film was criticized by Harry Forbes of Catholic News Service for promoting "the false premise that there's something intrinsically wrong with an unmarried man being sexually inexperienced,"[41] and by political columnist Cal Thomas for being an example of societal decline in regards to "self-control or what was once known as purity."[42] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_40-Year-Old_Virgin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_40-Year-Old_Virgin
      - dragontamer 5y ago
        If I remember the film correctly, his friends were a bunch of jackasses (in a comedic fashion), while the 40-year-old virgin was actually the nicest guy... Who best deserves the girl at the end. The female lead was also a virgin, and actually valued that in the main character. I mean, I guess it still falls on the trope of "the hero gets the girl" at the end, if that's what your problem is? A lot of what his friends do get in the way of him actually having a successful romantic experience with the female lead. ----------- I dunno, reading those reviews kinda reminds me of one review I read for Frozen: where they were critical about "Love is an Open Door" and failing to understand the satire. Sometimes there are messages behind the message...
FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
> I dunno where you work, but this wouldn't fly with my employer Maybe that's the point. Now the author's work only benefits the kind of people who won't be offended.
cbsmith 5y ago
The tone seems to have an implicit mocking of Chad-isms, so I'm not sure it really qualifies as toxic.