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I liked that Ringworld addresses this. What Dyson Sphere's excel at is hiding their location* and capturing 100% of a stars output. At those sizes, a civiliza
by UI_at_80x24 5y ago
I liked that Ringworld addresses this.
What Dyson Sphere's excel at is hiding their location* and capturing 100% of a stars output. At those sizes, a civilization MUST have already conquered the energy problem. It'd be impossible to construct without "free energy", because you need to convert that energy into matter to make/engineer enough material to create a sphere the size of the Goldilocks zone.
And as you said, you'd lose atmosphere & gravity* would be wonky.
But to address the fine article, the equation was a thought experiment. We now have hard data on the number of stars that we've looked at that have planets. And of those we have a hard number that have planets in the habitable zone. The Drake Equation presumes that you guess TINY numbers for those values. Well using known numbers and extrapolating the number of possible worlds with intelligent life jumps from staggering large, to incomprehensible.
As humans, we can barely communicate with others of our own species. Let's frame the problem another way.
Put two Americans in a room.
One is deaf, the other is blind.
How long does it take for them to agree on what to eat for dinner?
Context depends on language.
We may have been bombarded by intelligent alien life for centuries; we just don't know that somebody is talking.
*Everybody forgets about gravity.
- the8472 5y ago> A civilization MUST have already conquered the energy problem There possibly are ever more exotic applications that require more energy. Energy to matter conversion which you mention (and which also conveniently produces antimatter) requires very very large amounts of energy. The mass defect of the Tsar Bomba is merely 2.6kg, which also happens to be roughly equivalent the energy the sun that hits the whole planet each second. And then there are speculative things like the alcubierre drive or anything that involves moving entire stars.
- cletus 5y ago> I liked that Ringworld addresses this Just FYI, but the Ringworld as Larry Niven envisioned it simply doesn't work because no known or theorized material is remotely strong enough. To produce gravity a Ringworld needs to orbit the star. This produces centrifugal force that is tearing the ring apart. I believe around our Sun it would need to spin at about 1.2M mph [1]. [1]: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20150609-will-we-ever-build-ringworlds#:~:text=Assuming%20that%20the%20ringworld%20shares,rotate%20at%20approximately%201%2C200%2C000mph https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20150609-will-we-ever-bui....