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Notion is clearly a feat of engineering. The first time that you modify a link name, and it is automatically modified in all others connected users whether it i

by polote 5y ago

Notion is clearly a feat of engineering. The first time that you modify a link name, and it is automatically modified in all others connected users whether it is in the menu, inside a document or wherever it is. You are just impressed. You can also drag and drop links from a document to a menu. I'm just worried that so much engineering complexity is going to make things slow to move. We will see in a few years if that was a good idea or not

dheera 5y ago
It's one of those things that they don't really need to move. The product is perfect as-is. Maybe a more full-fledged API/plugin system would be nice, but that's it. The only people that really want them to move and change things are investors, not customers. Same with Dropbox. A folder that syncs is all I need from them as a customer. Everything else they try to do is just getting in my way.
- jitl 5y ago
  > The product is perfect as-is. > The only people that really want them to move and change things are investors, not customers. I'm glad the Notion works for you, but I think we have a long way to go to reach perfection. To pick an example from the post, even indentation needs work. There's also always more work to do to make the product faster and easier to use.
  - dmingod666 5y ago
    Images in wide-page view will get stretched and pasted to 100% width no matter what their actual size is. You need to manually resize them to look normal. I raised a bug for this, they said it was intended behavior. Like yea, ofcourse.
  - peteretep 5y ago
    The product also desperately needs simple tables
    - dheera 5y ago
      It has tables. Just hit the + and select table.
      - peteretep 5y ago
        Those are lists of pages and attributes and of little use for a table of numbers
        dheera 5y ago
        Here's an example: https://www.notion.so/dheeranet/Foo-a4b0f734fdab4ec4949a9b69b0f7c319 https://www.notion.so/dheeranet/Foo-a4b0f734fdab4ec4949a9b69... What are you looking for that is not this?
        peteretep 5y ago
        https://twitter.com/notionhq/status/1257455482031276033?lang=en https://twitter.com/notionhq/status/1257455482031276033?lang...
  - ThatGeoGuy 5y ago
    We use Notion at work, and I would agree that Notion has some ways to go. Notifications in the system are still pretty hard to work with, and email notifications are no replacement. Comments on pages are unwieldy and mess with cursor focus in annoying ways. I've definitely submitted this feedback to support before and I can understand that not everything can be worked on at once. However, I still have faith that the team will work the kinks out eventually. EDIT: To be less negative, I should also note that Notion still has probably _the_ best LaTeX / mathematics support out of any documenting system I've ever used. I vastly appreciate this, as it is often easiest to share complex mathematics via a shared Notion doc since I work remotely.
- wraptile 5y ago
  As much as I like Notion it has _a lot_ of work to do tbefore anyone can call it "perfect". It's text editor is very weak but I have stronger than average preferences so I'll refrain from commenting but more importantly the desktop clients are just down-right awful with no rebindable keys (even the keyboard shorcuts "help" needs to go online to a webpage), no plugins or any sort configurations at all. It's fine if you use notion once a week but if you work with it every day you really feel constricted and I can't imagine what people with disabilities even do.

by polote 5y ago

dheera 5y ago

It's one of those things that they don't really need to move. The product is perfect as-is. Maybe a more full-fledged API/plugin system would be nice, but that's it. The only people that really want them to move and change things are investors, not customers. Same with Dropbox. A folder that syncs is all I need from them as a customer. Everything else they try to do is just getting in my way.

jitl 5y ago
> The product is perfect as-is. > The only people that really want them to move and change things are investors, not customers. I'm glad the Notion works for you, but I think we have a long way to go to reach perfection. To pick an example from the post, even indentation needs work. There's also always more work to do to make the product faster and easier to use.
- dmingod666 5y ago
  Images in wide-page view will get stretched and pasted to 100% width no matter what their actual size is. You need to manually resize them to look normal. I raised a bug for this, they said it was intended behavior. Like yea, ofcourse.
- peteretep 5y ago
  The product also desperately needs simple tables
  - dheera 5y ago
    It has tables. Just hit the + and select table.
    - peteretep 5y ago
      Those are lists of pages and attributes and of little use for a table of numbers
      - dheera 5y ago
        Here's an example: https://www.notion.so/dheeranet/Foo-a4b0f734fdab4ec4949a9b69b0f7c319 https://www.notion.so/dheeranet/Foo-a4b0f734fdab4ec4949a9b69... What are you looking for that is not this?
        peteretep 5y ago
        https://twitter.com/notionhq/status/1257455482031276033?lang=en https://twitter.com/notionhq/status/1257455482031276033?lang...
- ThatGeoGuy 5y ago
  We use Notion at work, and I would agree that Notion has some ways to go. Notifications in the system are still pretty hard to work with, and email notifications are no replacement. Comments on pages are unwieldy and mess with cursor focus in annoying ways. I've definitely submitted this feedback to support before and I can understand that not everything can be worked on at once. However, I still have faith that the team will work the kinks out eventually. EDIT: To be less negative, I should also note that Notion still has probably _the_ best LaTeX / mathematics support out of any documenting system I've ever used. I vastly appreciate this, as it is often easiest to share complex mathematics via a shared Notion doc since I work remotely.
wraptile 5y ago
As much as I like Notion it has _a lot_ of work to do tbefore anyone can call it "perfect". It's text editor is very weak but I have stronger than average preferences so I'll refrain from commenting but more importantly the desktop clients are just down-right awful with no rebindable keys (even the keyboard shorcuts "help" needs to go online to a webpage), no plugins or any sort configurations at all. It's fine if you use notion once a week but if you work with it every day you really feel constricted and I can't imagine what people with disabilities even do.