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> Freedom is great when people aren't using their freedom to infringe on other people's freedom. Other people driving up the price on something you want is not

by seneca 5y ago

> Freedom is great when people aren't using their freedom to infringe on other people's freedom. Other people driving up the price on something you want is not "[infringing] on other people's freedom". It's an inconvenience, but you're still completely free to buy at the inflated price.

dorkwood 5y ago
Could the price ever reach a point where you would say it infringes on the general public's freedom to purchase? Or are all prices simply greater and greater inconveniences?
- Vrondi 5y ago
  No. There is no constitution of any nation which says you are owed the freedom to be guaranteed that a luxury good (like gaming graphics cards) will be available when you feel like buying it. Market scarcity of luxury goods has no infringement on anyone's freedom. Just like market availability of luxury cars or gold jewelry in no way infringes on anyone's freedom.
  - paulmd 5y ago
    the beauty is that there's no constitution of any nation that says miners are entitled to cheap gaming GPUs for their farms either. if NVIDIA wants to segment you out of the gaming market, that is their right as well. Free market cuts both ways - you are free to start up your own company and do it your way.
  - dorkwood 5y ago
    I see where our difference in opinion lies now. I don't put graphics cards into the same category as gold jewellery. There are entire industries of independent contractors who rely on GPUs to remain competitive, such as VFX and motion graphics artists. If GPUs suddenly cost $10,000 each, it means only a small percentage of the population can afford to break into those industries. That is, people who were once free to enter those industries no longer are. Isn't that an infringement on freedom?
Siira 5y ago
People hate competition. It’s not like the big tech is made out of bricks. The small timer says competing users of GPUs are evil, the Apple lawyer bullshits on how they can’t even allow mentions of alternative payment gateways less the security gods become angry.

by seneca 5y ago

dorkwood 5y ago

Could the price ever reach a point where you would say it infringes on the general public's freedom to purchase? Or are all prices simply greater and greater inconveniences?

Vrondi 5y ago
No. There is no constitution of any nation which says you are owed the freedom to be guaranteed that a luxury good (like gaming graphics cards) will be available when you feel like buying it. Market scarcity of luxury goods has no infringement on anyone's freedom. Just like market availability of luxury cars or gold jewelry in no way infringes on anyone's freedom.
- paulmd 5y ago
  the beauty is that there's no constitution of any nation that says miners are entitled to cheap gaming GPUs for their farms either. if NVIDIA wants to segment you out of the gaming market, that is their right as well. Free market cuts both ways - you are free to start up your own company and do it your way.
- dorkwood 5y ago
  I see where our difference in opinion lies now. I don't put graphics cards into the same category as gold jewellery. There are entire industries of independent contractors who rely on GPUs to remain competitive, such as VFX and motion graphics artists. If GPUs suddenly cost $10,000 each, it means only a small percentage of the population can afford to break into those industries. That is, people who were once free to enter those industries no longer are. Isn't that an infringement on freedom?

Siira 5y ago

People hate competition. It’s not like the big tech is made out of bricks. The small timer says competing users of GPUs are evil, the Apple lawyer bullshits on how they can’t even allow mentions of alternative payment gateways less the security gods become angry.