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There is no online activation. (DP1, DP2, DP3, DP4, and DP5 inclusive)

by llambda 15y ago

mishmash 15y ago
In DP3~4 when trying to do a clean install from the recovery partition, Setup requires you to be online, you may or may not have to enter your AppleID (can't remember) and then a dialog states the purpose to be so your CPU serial number will be sent to Apple to determine if the OS may be installed. That's the definition of online activation. /cue shitstorm
- bonch 15y ago
  The Developer Previews are only available to Apple IDs registered to members of the developer program.
  - mishmash 15y ago
    I am such member, and yes I now realize it breaks the NDA to post this.
  - llambda 15y ago
    This is not enforced by the software in any way whatsoever. Sure, you can only access the download link if you're a registered developer, but the installer doesn't check.
    - mishmash 15y ago
      Follow my directions: install to the rescue partition, boot DiskUtility, erase drive, then try to clean install. After that, come back and report your results. meta: It's getting insane the lengths you must go to to back up a simple statement on HN. I'm seriously about to do blowup an entire machine just to win this.... :(
      - wmf 15y ago
        Don't bother; if someone doesn't want to believe you they'll just make up a reason to not believe any evidence you provide. Just walk away.
        mishmash 15y ago
        blows off steam Thanks, you're absolutely right. It's sad I even needed the reminder. peace :)
        llambda 15y ago
        What evidence? Sorry but this is simply baseless FUD. I've installed the seeds, I've done so without an Internet connection, and I've never had to provide any kind of license or proof of purchase. Never. If you want to make a claim that Apple is moving towards the Windows licensing model or even just the requirement of a license with Lion then you better be prepared to back up that claim with proof. Also please explain how I was able to install without running into the supposed "licensing" difficulties you seem to have run into? (e.g. the requirement of being connected to the Internet) Edit: by requiring a license, I mean that the software enforces it. The "AppStore validation" notwithstanding, which the current seeds do not seem to use fwiw, where is the evidence? Because the seeds can be installed sans-Internet and without an Apple ID, there doesn't seem to be any evidence for this claim. Edit 2: the image linked below is not of a local install: "To download and restore Mac OS X, your computer's eligibility will be verified with Apple." As previously stated, installation does not require online activation. Also I would like to point out, if you are restoring from a back up in the cloud, e.g. iCloud, you damn well better hope Apple verifies your credentials! If you're simply wanting to re-download, I don't know why you're complaining Apple is checking your credentials? At any rate, installing from the local media works without any such requirements; you do not need an Internet connection and you do not need an Apple ID. Now, can we stop with the FUD?
        mishmash 15y ago
        > What evidence? Now, the question is, are you man-enough to apologize? http://i.imgur.com/ziYaW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ziYaW.jpg edit: and the GM is still broke. :(
- ryannielsen 15y ago
  They announced Lion would only be available via the Mac App Store. Did that trigger backlash? After all, most people will need to enter their Apple ID on every machine on which they wish to install Lion. What you describe sounds like an extension of that very process. Enter your Apple ID to validate purchase, so you can legitimately download the bits. Or, if you purchased a computer that already had Lion installed, as determined by the machine's serial number, you can get the bits without your Apple ID. Very different from controversial forms of online activation, like Window's, where you must enter a serial number to install and then, after the install, activate Windows so they can verify you haven't exceeded your unique machine quota and aren't using a cracked copy of Windows. Apple's process is basically just asking for a serial number. I doubt it'll cause a shitstorm.
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There is no online activation. (DP1, DP2, DP3, DP4, and DP5 inclusive)

by llambda 15y ago

There is no online activation. (DP1, DP2, DP3, DP4, and DP5 inclusive)

In DP3~4 when trying to do a clean install from the recovery partition, Setup requires you to be online, you may or may not have to enter your AppleID (can't remember) and then a dialog states the purpose to be so your CPU serial number will be sent to Apple to determine if the OS may be installed. That's the definition of online activation. /cue shitstorm

bonch 15y ago
The Developer Previews are only available to Apple IDs registered to members of the developer program.
- mishmash 15y ago
  I am such member, and yes I now realize it breaks the NDA to post this.
- llambda 15y ago
  This is not enforced by the software in any way whatsoever. Sure, you can only access the download link if you're a registered developer, but the installer doesn't check.
  - mishmash 15y ago
    Follow my directions: install to the rescue partition, boot DiskUtility, erase drive, then try to clean install. After that, come back and report your results. meta: It's getting insane the lengths you must go to to back up a simple statement on HN. I'm seriously about to do blowup an entire machine just to win this.... :(
    - wmf 15y ago
      Don't bother; if someone doesn't want to believe you they'll just make up a reason to not believe any evidence you provide. Just walk away.
      - mishmash 15y ago
        blows off steam Thanks, you're absolutely right. It's sad I even needed the reminder. peace :)
      - llambda 15y ago
        What evidence? Sorry but this is simply baseless FUD. I've installed the seeds, I've done so without an Internet connection, and I've never had to provide any kind of license or proof of purchase. Never. If you want to make a claim that Apple is moving towards the Windows licensing model or even just the requirement of a license with Lion then you better be prepared to back up that claim with proof. Also please explain how I was able to install without running into the supposed "licensing" difficulties you seem to have run into? (e.g. the requirement of being connected to the Internet) Edit: by requiring a license, I mean that the software enforces it. The "AppStore validation" notwithstanding, which the current seeds do not seem to use fwiw, where is the evidence? Because the seeds can be installed sans-Internet and without an Apple ID, there doesn't seem to be any evidence for this claim. Edit 2: the image linked below is not of a local install: "To download and restore Mac OS X, your computer's eligibility will be verified with Apple." As previously stated, installation does not require online activation. Also I would like to point out, if you are restoring from a back up in the cloud, e.g. iCloud, you damn well better hope Apple verifies your credentials! If you're simply wanting to re-download, I don't know why you're complaining Apple is checking your credentials? At any rate, installing from the local media works without any such requirements; you do not need an Internet connection and you do not need an Apple ID. Now, can we stop with the FUD?
        mishmash 15y ago
        > What evidence? Now, the question is, are you man-enough to apologize? http://i.imgur.com/ziYaW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ziYaW.jpg edit: and the GM is still broke. :(
ryannielsen 15y ago
They announced Lion would only be available via the Mac App Store. Did that trigger backlash? After all, most people will need to enter their Apple ID on every machine on which they wish to install Lion. What you describe sounds like an extension of that very process. Enter your Apple ID to validate purchase, so you can legitimately download the bits. Or, if you purchased a computer that already had Lion installed, as determined by the machine's serial number, you can get the bits without your Apple ID. Very different from controversial forms of online activation, like Window's, where you must enter a serial number to install and then, after the install, activate Windows so they can verify you haven't exceeded your unique machine quota and aren't using a cracked copy of Windows. Apple's process is basically just asking for a serial number. I doubt it'll cause a shitstorm.
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