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> Yeah, but who are you? I am none of your business.
by LaGrange 5y ago
> Yeah, but who are you?
I am none of your business.
- jfengel 5y agoIf you're trying to buy from me, who you are is literally my business.
- hire_charts 5y agoAnd I'll happily fill out a form to tell you any information I feel is relevant to my purchase. If you want to covertly fingerprint and track me, I'll gladly take my business elsewhere.
- LaGrange 5y agoNo it's not. My shipping and payment details might be, if I decide to buy anything. Those are not the same as "who I am."
- KeepFlying 5y agoWhat I buy from you is your business. The information I give you to complete my transaction is your business. Who I am is not. You don't need to know if I have kids, have a disease, my age, my race, my gender. You don't need to know anything. Sure that information would help you make a better experience for me, I get that. But that's up to me. If I want a better experience, allow me to provide that information in exchange for the benefits that information gains me. But peeking over my shoulder as I walk through your store so that you can overanalyze everything I do isn't okay.
- sofixa 5y agoYou, personally, are not. You, one of a cohort, kind of are. If i run an e-commerce site, and see the vast majority of my users, but the minority of those that buy stuff, are on mobile and from India, maybe i need to optimise my site for mobile and lower-speed connections? Maybe something is wrong with my payment for specific currencies? If i run a blog, ans the majority of my viewers come from France, maybe it's time i start writing localised content in French? You get the gist.
- pseudalopex 5y agoYou can see those things with just server logs.
- sofixa 5y agoNo, you can't. There's no way to get viewport from server logs, and presenting them a form digestible by marketing people isn't easy.
- LaGrange 5y agoI get the gist, you believe you’re so bad at running a shop and/or writing you can’t survive without creeping on people. Also, look at both of your examples. They’re bad. They’re both best replied to with that diagram of holes on a WW2 airplane.
- throwaddzuzxd 5y agoAnd for all of that, you need GA because...?
- sofixa 5y agoBecause it's easy and marketing people can work with it. Access logs don't have all the information ( e.g. viewport) and are cumbersome to parse.