>I really do think we need to rethink our idea of civilization Why? Civilization is a description, not a value judgment. If a society we value doesn't fit the

>I really do think we need to rethink our idea of civilization Why? Civilization is a description, not a value judgment. If a society we value doesn't fit the description the answer isn't to change the description. The answer is to remove the value you are placing on the label.