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> "neighborhood surveillance platforms such as Neighbors perpetuate a much longer history of the policing of race in residential space" I am onboard with the i

by belval 5y ago

> "neighborhood surveillance platforms such as Neighbors perpetuate a much longer history of the policing of race in residential space" I am onboard with the individual freedom counter-argument such as the one that was made to target people participating in the BLM protests, but I fail to see how a network of ring cameras can be especially bad for people of color.

JPKab 5y ago
It's predicated on the narrative that the systems of power in the US are all inherently biased towards X category of humans. My opinion is similar to yours: This narrative is injected into as many stories as it can be, whether or not the facts or data in said story support it. It's an inevitable result of elite media organizations being filled with quantitatively illiterate liberal arts graduates from elite universities. Try talking to your average Oberlin graduate sometime and see if they seem remotely humble about their knowledge of the world in proportion to their age. Put that person in a newsroom with editorial decisions delegated to click maximization algorithms. The result is this.
- tweetle_beetle 5y ago
  I think it's fine to have and express a theory. But if your theory involves attacking a large group of people for not providing evidence (and their lack of humility), then this looks an awful lot like the pot calling the kettle black to me.
meristohm 5y ago
Might it be that police tend to do what the most-influential in their jurisdiction ask them to do? Somewhat related: The Irish in America earned their whiteness through cruelty to those with whom, in the Five Points for example, they’d relatively-peacefully coexisted. They saw an opportunity to get an advantage over, rather than continue to be in solidarity with, people with darker skin. Then they solidified this advantage by working in policing and politics.[0] [0] https://www.worldcat.org/title/how-the-irish-became-white/ https://www.worldcat.org/title/how-the-irish-became-white/

by belval 5y ago

JPKab 5y ago

It's predicated on the narrative that the systems of power in the US are all inherently biased towards X category of humans. My opinion is similar to yours: This narrative is injected into as many stories as it can be, whether or not the facts or data in said story support it. It's an inevitable result of elite media organizations being filled with quantitatively illiterate liberal arts graduates from elite universities. Try talking to your average Oberlin graduate sometime and see if they seem remotely humble about their knowledge of the world in proportion to their age. Put that person in a newsroom with editorial decisions delegated to click maximization algorithms. The result is this.

tweetle_beetle 5y ago
I think it's fine to have and express a theory. But if your theory involves attacking a large group of people for not providing evidence (and their lack of humility), then this looks an awful lot like the pot calling the kettle black to me.

meristohm 5y ago

Might it be that police tend to do what the most-influential in their jurisdiction ask them to do? Somewhat related: The Irish in America earned their whiteness through cruelty to those with whom, in the Five Points for example, they’d relatively-peacefully coexisted. They saw an opportunity to get an advantage over, rather than continue to be in solidarity with, people with darker skin. Then they solidified this advantage by working in policing and politics.[0] [0] https://www.worldcat.org/title/how-the-irish-became-white/ https://www.worldcat.org/title/how-the-irish-became-white/