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Isn't it a little ridiculous to compare wireless headphones to wired speakers?

alpaca128 5y ago
Sure, but take it a bit less literally and you have wireless vs. wired heaphones. Same thing: wired headphones will just play anything you throw at them. Meanwhile wireless ones cost more, have a more limited bandwidth, sometimes require an app for settings, and are built to fail after a few years thanks to proprietary batteries. We have the tech to solve all these issues. But that wouldn't be as profitable.
- renewiltord 5y ago
  It’s just a trade off in product design man. This isn’t some Phoebus cartel shit from Apple. They just made a trade off.
  - alpaca128 5y ago
    I'm not saying it's a cartel. But you can't tell me manufacturers stopped making batteries swappable in notebooks, phones, headphones and many other devices for much other than planned obsolescence. Of course they always make up some other excuse, but it's very obvious e.g. the Surface Laptop wasn't made impossible to repair for technical reasons. It's plain as day why certain design decisions are made, and calling it a tradeoff might not be wrong, but it's clearly too kind to these practices.
    - renewiltord 5y ago
      I’m unfamiliar with the Surface but the unusual shape of the MacBook batteries is intentional so that it can fill almost all room. This does make it hard to also make it user serviceable.
      - alpaca128 5y ago
        No, it doesn't. The shape of the battery has absolutely nothing to do with how hard it is to swap. The amount of glue, restrictions on replacement parts and special screws does.
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Hamuko 5y ago
Not when the headphones also have a wire which doesn't support this.
1_player 5y ago
Is it? Companies have removed the wired option, forgetting that current wireless audio tech is abysmal in many aspects - latency, bandwidth, codecs, Bluetooth being an awful spec. Yet in their book it was comparable enough to replace wired completely.

Sure, but take it a bit less literally and you have wireless vs. wired heaphones. Same thing: wired headphones will just play anything you throw at them. Meanwhile wireless ones cost more, have a more limited bandwidth, sometimes require an app for settings, and are built to fail after a few years thanks to proprietary batteries. We have the tech to solve all these issues. But that wouldn't be as profitable.

renewiltord 5y ago
It’s just a trade off in product design man. This isn’t some Phoebus cartel shit from Apple. They just made a trade off.
- alpaca128 5y ago
  I'm not saying it's a cartel. But you can't tell me manufacturers stopped making batteries swappable in notebooks, phones, headphones and many other devices for much other than planned obsolescence. Of course they always make up some other excuse, but it's very obvious e.g. the Surface Laptop wasn't made impossible to repair for technical reasons. It's plain as day why certain design decisions are made, and calling it a tradeoff might not be wrong, but it's clearly too kind to these practices.
  - renewiltord 5y ago
    I’m unfamiliar with the Surface but the unusual shape of the MacBook batteries is intentional so that it can fill almost all room. This does make it hard to also make it user serviceable.
    - alpaca128 5y ago
      No, it doesn't. The shape of the battery has absolutely nothing to do with how hard it is to swap. The amount of glue, restrictions on replacement parts and special screws does.

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Hamuko 5y ago

Not when the headphones also have a wire which doesn't support this.

1_player 5y ago

Is it? Companies have removed the wired option, forgetting that current wireless audio tech is abysmal in many aspects - latency, bandwidth, codecs, Bluetooth being an awful spec. Yet in their book it was comparable enough to replace wired completely.