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You people obsessed with reducing humanity’s energy usage are so tiresome. Anyone who actually cares about the well-being of humanity should be focused on incre

You people obsessed with reducing humanity’s energy usage are so tiresome. Anyone who actually cares about the well-being of humanity should be focused on increasing the amount of energy available. I want to climb the kardashev scale, not live in an eco-pod and eat bug burgers so I can scrounge every last joule.

ohgodplsno 5y ago
What you want and the realities of our current world are two very, very different things.
- nmfisher 5y ago
  The reality of the current world is that a lot of people feel exactly like that, so you're unlikely to convince them to change their behaviour. Rather than deny that reality, you're better off working with it to produce more, but cleaner, energy.
- rwcarlsen 5y ago
  Necessity is the mother of invention. [edit] - downvotes because I used the word "mother" maybe? I don't understand this community.
hunter2_ 5y ago
We all want luxury, but at some point the changes that come from energy usage will be very unluxurious, no?
- LeftTriangle 5y ago
  Yeah, maybe when we’ve exhausted the sun’s net output.
tastyfreeze 5y ago
Bingo! The more energy a system has available the greater capability it has. For example, if a mining community is able to generate cheap excess power it opens up possibility for local smelting and foundry industries. I think of each community as a game of Civilization. As you progress you unlock higher rungs of the tech ladder. Exporting your raw materials to later import finished products made from them is a waste of resources and stagnates the local industries at the raw material stage. What industries could be developed in your community if the power was available?
Graffur 5y ago
Who is working on this problem today?
- cwkoss 5y ago
  Arguably, all of the Bitcoin miners. Bitcoin mining creates a price floor for energy. It is a buyer of last resort with infinite appetite. By pushing up the value of energy in the market, it encourages expansion of energy production.

ohgodplsno 5y ago

What you want and the realities of our current world are two very, very different things.

nmfisher 5y ago
The reality of the current world is that a lot of people feel exactly like that, so you're unlikely to convince them to change their behaviour. Rather than deny that reality, you're better off working with it to produce more, but cleaner, energy.
rwcarlsen 5y ago
Necessity is the mother of invention. [edit] - downvotes because I used the word "mother" maybe? I don't understand this community.

hunter2_ 5y ago

We all want luxury, but at some point the changes that come from energy usage will be very unluxurious, no?

LeftTriangle 5y ago
Yeah, maybe when we’ve exhausted the sun’s net output.

tastyfreeze 5y ago

Bingo! The more energy a system has available the greater capability it has. For example, if a mining community is able to generate cheap excess power it opens up possibility for local smelting and foundry industries. I think of each community as a game of Civilization. As you progress you unlock higher rungs of the tech ladder. Exporting your raw materials to later import finished products made from them is a waste of resources and stagnates the local industries at the raw material stage. What industries could be developed in your community if the power was available?

Graffur 5y ago

Who is working on this problem today?

cwkoss 5y ago
Arguably, all of the Bitcoin miners. Bitcoin mining creates a price floor for energy. It is a buyer of last resort with infinite appetite. By pushing up the value of energy in the market, it encourages expansion of energy production.