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As I suggest in the comments: http://tbbuck.com/building-a-50-dollar-a-month-web-app/#comment-475 http://tbbuck.com/building-a-50-dollar-a-month-web-app/#comm..

As I suggest in the comments: http://tbbuck.com/building-a-50-dollar-a-month-web-app/#comment-475 http://tbbuck.com/building-a-50-dollar-a-month-web-app/#comm... ------ Try presenting your users with a paid and viral choice. First oauth them with the promise of the service you are offering. Then present them with the value proposition: "You are about to save X minutes by automatically deleting Y DM's". Then offer them two choices to compensate you for that value: 1) Follow your twitter account & tweet an endorsement (which could be as simple as a variation on the value prop ) or 2) pay you $0.99 for a one time service. This will allow you to a) measure your funnel, b) advertise without spending any money, c) build an audience, d) use that audience to build a feedback loop and test other ideas, e) make money in a way that seems to align with your users usage habits. Thoughts? ----- What do yall think, could this dog hunt?

mootothemax 15y ago
I've replied to you in the comments, but in short I'm conflicted between not wanting to pay for promotion (which a freebie is, essentially) but liking the idea of thousands tweeting about how great my app is. Anyone reading that uses Twitter - would you pay or tweet to use a service? I'm guessing the vast majority would tweet... but am really not sure :)
- awj 15y ago
  I'd be careful with that. Most people probably wouldn't try too hard to promote you, and "just tweeting so I can use this crappy inbox cleaner. bit.ly/asdf..." isn't really great promotion. In general forcing viral activity both misses the point and fails to work. I'd say you should at most randomly give away free inbox cleanings to your followers / people who tweet about the service. Really, though, you should probably just be active on twitter and talk to people. That doesn't scale well, but it's the most effective viral tactic there is.
  - techscruggs 15y ago
    with oauth access you can push the tweet yourself. Of course, tell them what they will be posting, but you can control the message.
    - awj 15y ago
      In some ways that seems even worse. Canned messages that you have to inflict on your friends to use something are one step shy of pure spam. They also seem to be ignored in much the same ways.
  - damoncali 15y ago
    I've done it once. And it worked. You just need to be upfront about it. Most people don't mind a plug in exchange for something free. And the ones that get snarky about it (a tiny minority) are not a big deal. The ones that really care will pay you (an even tinier minority). This works because you're offering something that normally costs money for free. That's psychologically different than offering something for free (with a required plug), but with no option to pay for it. The other thing is that it needs to be an impulse purchase. I doubt it would work for a Shoppify, for example. So if you're selling something sort of whimsical, entertaining or trivial, this sort of "forced viral" marketing can work very well.

mootothemax 15y ago

I've replied to you in the comments, but in short I'm conflicted between not wanting to pay for promotion (which a freebie is, essentially) but liking the idea of thousands tweeting about how great my app is. Anyone reading that uses Twitter - would you pay or tweet to use a service? I'm guessing the vast majority would tweet... but am really not sure :)

awj 15y ago
I'd be careful with that. Most people probably wouldn't try too hard to promote you, and "just tweeting so I can use this crappy inbox cleaner. bit.ly/asdf..." isn't really great promotion. In general forcing viral activity both misses the point and fails to work. I'd say you should at most randomly give away free inbox cleanings to your followers / people who tweet about the service. Really, though, you should probably just be active on twitter and talk to people. That doesn't scale well, but it's the most effective viral tactic there is.
- techscruggs 15y ago
  with oauth access you can push the tweet yourself. Of course, tell them what they will be posting, but you can control the message.
  - awj 15y ago
    In some ways that seems even worse. Canned messages that you have to inflict on your friends to use something are one step shy of pure spam. They also seem to be ignored in much the same ways.
- damoncali 15y ago
  I've done it once. And it worked. You just need to be upfront about it. Most people don't mind a plug in exchange for something free. And the ones that get snarky about it (a tiny minority) are not a big deal. The ones that really care will pay you (an even tinier minority). This works because you're offering something that normally costs money for free. That's psychologically different than offering something for free (with a required plug), but with no option to pay for it. The other thing is that it needs to be an impulse purchase. I doubt it would work for a Shoppify, for example. So if you're selling something sort of whimsical, entertaining or trivial, this sort of "forced viral" marketing can work very well.