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Insights From Steve Jobs Keynote Circa 1997

22 points by jbyers 15y ago

dshah 15y ago
Is it just me or does Jobs seem to be conflicted a bit between the strategic value of controlling everything vs. the value of opening things up and licensing to third-parties?
- jmelloy 15y ago
  Sure, if by "conflicted" you mean "Absolutely hates it but understands reality and economics".
- pohl 15y ago
  Perhaps nobody has yet offered them the "fair price" he believes Apple should get for licensing the operating system.
- rahoulb 15y ago
  you play the game differently when you're the no-mark upstart compared to when you're running the show
rmason 15y ago
Though he'd only been back Apple a short time when this video was recorded he had an amazingly clear vision of where Apple needed to go. One that he executed on once he assumed the CEO role. Two things I caught that were highly interesting: He talked about Apple 'controlling distribution' and then caught himself. Was he already planning Apple stores that long ago? He was obsessed about having a good cell phone and hearing him go on it was interesting to note was before the smartphone had even been invented. I note with humor that it was a dealbreaker for him that the phone have a physical keyboard! Guess that's one area he comprised on in the final design.
- cwe 15y ago
  He never said physical keyboard. Just keyboard, and always connected to the net.
  - rmason 15y ago
    The phone he mentioned previously using had an on screen keyboard so I inferred from his emphasis that the phone have an actual keyboard that he meant a physical one.
    - rimantas 15y ago
      He said he did not want to use that scribble thing.
jmjerlecki 15y ago
"It’s incredibly stupid for Apple to get into a position where for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose. That’s really dumb." Its amazing how on the money that quote is.
seiji 15y ago
I feel the post misses the historical importance of the video. I watched it last week and also came up with an entire page full of notes, but my notes ended up sounding more MBA-ish. Watch his personality. Watch the way he tells stories and interacts with people when faced with praise, hostility, and indifference. He's completely open. In this video, he isn't CEO -- he's just an advisor. He can say what he wants, what he means, and what he feels with no corporate marketing sitting in the way. His stump points throughout: - We can save the world by reducing complexity - We must make people love us through our great products - Somebody give me a goddamn internet phone with a non-stylus keyboard
stretchwithme 15y ago
Why do people try to demonstrate how on the money Steve was back then? Clearly, he's had many deeper insights since then and you would hope so. He's abandoned some of what he talked about and doubled down on others. And many of the ideas he's had only could have emerged as he went down the path.
oasisbob 15y ago
I don't know what to make of this exchange, but I found it fascinating. (Starts at 12:15) Audience member: "I think it's important that Apple be perceived as different, 'cuz if Apple says we're just like everybody else, but better that doesn't really say very much ..." Jobs: "I don't think it's good that Apple is perceived as being different, I think it's important that Apple is perceived as being much better. If being different is essential to doing that I think we have to do that ... I don't care about being different. Wouldn't you agree?" Audience member: "I agree, but I think Apple needs to articulate those difference better." Later(?) in 1997, Apple launched the Think Different campaign: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmG9jzCHtSQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmG9jzCHtSQ "So we have to be really clear in what we want them to know about us. ... The Apple brand has seriously suffered from neglect. The way to do that is to not speak about speed ... it's not to talk about why we're better than Windows." I can't reconcile Jobs in these two videos. I'd like to think it shows a remarkable flexibility in opinion.

22 points by jbyers 15y ago

dshah 15y ago

Is it just me or does Jobs seem to be conflicted a bit between the strategic value of controlling everything vs. the value of opening things up and licensing to third-parties?

jmelloy 15y ago
Sure, if by "conflicted" you mean "Absolutely hates it but understands reality and economics".
pohl 15y ago
Perhaps nobody has yet offered them the "fair price" he believes Apple should get for licensing the operating system.
rahoulb 15y ago
you play the game differently when you're the no-mark upstart compared to when you're running the show

rmason 15y ago

Though he'd only been back Apple a short time when this video was recorded he had an amazingly clear vision of where Apple needed to go. One that he executed on once he assumed the CEO role. Two things I caught that were highly interesting: He talked about Apple 'controlling distribution' and then caught himself. Was he already planning Apple stores that long ago? He was obsessed about having a good cell phone and hearing him go on it was interesting to note was before the smartphone had even been invented. I note with humor that it was a dealbreaker for him that the phone have a physical keyboard! Guess that's one area he comprised on in the final design.

cwe 15y ago
He never said physical keyboard. Just keyboard, and always connected to the net.
- rmason 15y ago
  The phone he mentioned previously using had an on screen keyboard so I inferred from his emphasis that the phone have an actual keyboard that he meant a physical one.
  - rimantas 15y ago
    He said he did not want to use that scribble thing.

jmjerlecki 15y ago

"It’s incredibly stupid for Apple to get into a position where for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose. That’s really dumb." Its amazing how on the money that quote is.

seiji 15y ago

I feel the post misses the historical importance of the video. I watched it last week and also came up with an entire page full of notes, but my notes ended up sounding more MBA-ish. Watch his personality. Watch the way he tells stories and interacts with people when faced with praise, hostility, and indifference. He's completely open. In this video, he isn't CEO -- he's just an advisor. He can say what he wants, what he means, and what he feels with no corporate marketing sitting in the way. His stump points throughout: - We can save the world by reducing complexity - We must make people love us through our great products - Somebody give me a goddamn internet phone with a non-stylus keyboard

stretchwithme 15y ago

Why do people try to demonstrate how on the money Steve was back then? Clearly, he's had many deeper insights since then and you would hope so. He's abandoned some of what he talked about and doubled down on others. And many of the ideas he's had only could have emerged as he went down the path.

oasisbob 15y ago

I don't know what to make of this exchange, but I found it fascinating. (Starts at 12:15) Audience member: "I think it's important that Apple be perceived as different, 'cuz if Apple says we're just like everybody else, but better that doesn't really say very much ..." Jobs: "I don't think it's good that Apple is perceived as being different, I think it's important that Apple is perceived as being much better. If being different is essential to doing that I think we have to do that ... I don't care about being different. Wouldn't you agree?" Audience member: "I agree, but I think Apple needs to articulate those difference better." Later(?) in 1997, Apple launched the Think Different campaign: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmG9jzCHtSQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmG9jzCHtSQ "So we have to be really clear in what we want them to know about us. ... The Apple brand has seriously suffered from neglect. The way to do that is to not speak about speed ... it's not to talk about why we're better than Windows." I can't reconcile Jobs in these two videos. I'd like to think it shows a remarkable flexibility in opinion.