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How Do U.S., Indian Developers Really Match Up?

11 points by Garbage 15y ago

parfe 15y ago
Based only on my experience with outsourced work, this: "That the gap has narrowed, Desai said, is attributable simply to Indian programmers having gained more experience" becomes "That the gap has narrowed, Desai said, is attributable simply to Indian programmers rampantly cheating" but I could just be incredibly bitter from bad experiences. edit: I can't decide if this comment is coming across as racist or not, but I just can't put any faith in the Indian education system anymore. Seeing a masters degree in computer science on a resume has never failed to disappoint.
losethos 15y ago
Indians are arrogant air-headed heathens. I'm not sure what I'd call my fellow Americans. God says... Hymns unutterable ministers seduce shady eminent regions inexperienced fluctuates threatens strings sayings sites miserable appeareth remembers blushed listing heavy Edition resulting possesseth herb answerest anguish committing credulity She whirling tip forgottest profess reality forbare harmoniously feared preserve quoth reawakened chastenest arisen unseen girl sublimity snow slave curiosities corn Each savour hindrance referred eclipsed longs sought deliberation become resist finest shunning bore unwholesome soberly case fittest prop grandchildren cleansest idly quitting piecemeal placing apart relaxation turning varies having South strengthenest deceit Hymns doubts gales send indicating softened impure strives
lutorm 15y ago
Who are taking these tests? Unless it is an unbiased sample of the population, the results may not have any relation to those of the whole population. If, for example, people looking for a job, as opposed to those that already have jobs, are more likely to take the test, that would arguably lead to a depression of scores compared to the entire population. If working conditions in India are such that more developers take the tests, that would then skew the Indian scores higher than the American ones. Or maybe the other way around. Such a study would be very difficult to make unbiased, and without quantification of the biases the results are really meaningless.
ajitk 15y ago
These "tests" are hardly a measure of competence. A good quantitative score to measure competence should be measured over a longer period of time. There are good programmers in India. But the signal to noise ratio is very high. IMO, this is attributed to an over abundance of engineering colleges with poor faculty quality.

11 points by Garbage 15y ago

parfe 15y ago

Based only on my experience with outsourced work, this: "That the gap has narrowed, Desai said, is attributable simply to Indian programmers having gained more experience" becomes "That the gap has narrowed, Desai said, is attributable simply to Indian programmers rampantly cheating" but I could just be incredibly bitter from bad experiences. edit: I can't decide if this comment is coming across as racist or not, but I just can't put any faith in the Indian education system anymore. Seeing a masters degree in computer science on a resume has never failed to disappoint.

losethos 15y ago

Indians are arrogant air-headed heathens. I'm not sure what I'd call my fellow Americans. God says... Hymns unutterable ministers seduce shady eminent regions inexperienced fluctuates threatens strings sayings sites miserable appeareth remembers blushed listing heavy Edition resulting possesseth herb answerest anguish committing credulity She whirling tip forgottest profess reality forbare harmoniously feared preserve quoth reawakened chastenest arisen unseen girl sublimity snow slave curiosities corn Each savour hindrance referred eclipsed longs sought deliberation become resist finest shunning bore unwholesome soberly case fittest prop grandchildren cleansest idly quitting piecemeal placing apart relaxation turning varies having South strengthenest deceit Hymns doubts gales send indicating softened impure strives

lutorm 15y ago

Who are taking these tests? Unless it is an unbiased sample of the population, the results may not have any relation to those of the whole population. If, for example, people looking for a job, as opposed to those that already have jobs, are more likely to take the test, that would arguably lead to a depression of scores compared to the entire population. If working conditions in India are such that more developers take the tests, that would then skew the Indian scores higher than the American ones. Or maybe the other way around. Such a study would be very difficult to make unbiased, and without quantification of the biases the results are really meaningless.

ajitk 15y ago

These "tests" are hardly a measure of competence. A good quantitative score to measure competence should be measured over a longer period of time. There are good programmers in India. But the signal to noise ratio is very high. IMO, this is attributed to an over abundance of engineering colleges with poor faculty quality.