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That one is legit, I'm guessing Chrome requires users to use a gmail account in order to submit an extension to their store. https://blogs.windows.com/windowse

That one is legit, I'm guessing Chrome requires users to use a gmail account in order to submit an extension to their store. https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2021/02/05/simplify-and-secure-your-life-with-microsofts-autofill-solution-for-passwords/ https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2021/02/05/simpl...

donmcronald 5y ago
Talk about training users to fall for phishing schemes. Plus users have been so desensitized to entering 2FA codes they’ll type them in anywhere. I feel like web security is worse than it was 10 years ago.
- thefounder 5y ago
  We need webauthn not just 2FA
  - throwawayboise 5y ago
    Love how the goalposts keep moving. First arcane password rules so it takes 5 minutes and half a dozen attempts to come up with a password that is accepted. Then force the user to change it often. Then add email verification. Then SMS/phone verification. Still not good enough, now we all need to have a hardware token to buy the counterfeit garbage for sale on Amazon. Fuck that. It's just not worth the trouble. Honestly the world was a lot easier (if a bit slower) when you dealt with businesses in person or via mail. Fraud and identity theft just doesn't scale in meatspace, so it was never a big problem.
    - moshmosh 5y ago
      I maintain that most of what we get from the Web and computers, as individuals, is barely better than what we had before, and not enough so to justify its costs. Shopping very much included. For some context, I grew up very much "OMG wire my brain in, let's get this future shit going!" Years of watching that future develop, and some reflection, have almost entirely reversed that sentiment, for me. For example: are streaming services convenient? Yeah, of course. Am I actually happier with them than I was with the library, rentals, and the occasional purchased movie? Marginally, if at all. (but I have Internet service for the handful of things it actually is highly beneficial for, so, may as well use streaming, too) Is shopping online convenient? Yes. Am I happier than when I just had way less idea what was available to buy, and there was more friction to indulging every little purchase-whim? I really wonder. This one may not just be marginally better, but net-harmful.
      - idiotsecant 5y ago
        I can consume an order of magnitude more diverse and interesting media than I could without the internet. I can order exactly the right thing from the internet instead of making do with a kind-of solution from the store. I think you're remembering what it was like pre-internet with rose-colored glasses. The internet is great.
        moshmosh 5y ago
        We definitely have more of everything data-related and have a much better idea of all the stuff we can buy. I'm skeptical how far that's actually moved the happiness and life-satisfaction needles, in general. [EDIT] specifically, I think some of our "satisfaction" from this sort of consumption is itch-scratching generated by the possibility of doing it, in the same way that pre-Internet one rarely felt bothered by not knowing some piece of trivia, if no-one around happened to know either. Now it itches until someone looks it up, because you know you can find out quickly. Now if I'm not watching the best possible thing, for example, it itches, but I don't think it would have before. I think to some extent the level of choice available, aside from famously causing analysis-paralysis ("browsing Netflix" is famously an activity all its own, that may or may not end up in ever actually watching anything) also generates the very desire that it's satiating. I'm not sure I was actually less happy watching the best thing I could find at the video store, versus the best thing I can find on streaming services.
        idiotsecant 5y ago
        I don't know about you, but for me having access to youtube means that I can do things like fix my car, learn about medieval hats, see what kinds of weird animals exist, etc. These sorts of things improve my life immeasurably and definitely give me a sense of 'satisfaction' that I would not otherwise have been able to achieve paying someone to fix my car, watching a reality show on TLC, or going to the library and reading a book about ducks for the 50th time.
      - nexuist 5y ago
        Your problem isn't the Internet, it's the lack of trust busting in the tech space that prevents e.g. Disney from being able to launch its own streaming service or Amazon from promoting its own Basics products. The reason why everything sucks is because big players have zero incentive to change when they aren't punished for favoring themselves. Instagram doesn't even allow you to copy and paste photos anymore.
    - rocqua 5y ago
      Note that current best practice is simple password rules, with password expiry only when there is reason to do so. Generally the suggested rules are: be at least 12 characters long, check the password against lists of known passwords.
WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
It could be this MS extension is a companion project to the latest Windows 10 update - the News and Interests taskbar widget.
1cvmask 5y ago
Microsoft Edge requires a MS Live account.
oauea 5y ago
A Google account, which any organization that has its shit together (and uses Google properties) has set up for their domain.
- mynameisvlad 5y ago
  Which Microsoft, ostensibly, wouldn't be doing. Considering the whole Office 365 product exists and is a direct competitor to Google Suite.
  - oauea 5y ago
    And yet here they are.
PascLeRasc 5y ago
Most of the other big extensions have their own domain email. Like Grammarly, 1Password, Zoom, Pocket. Evernote has a normal Gmail account listed. So maybe this goes hand in hand with having a bad product.
- jen20 5y ago
  Perhaps those orgs use Google apps?
  - necovek 5y ago
    I have a Google account on an email completely unattached to any other Google services (I think it was an originally migrated pre-Google Youtube account), so I am sure you can have a Google account with any external email address.
rkeene2 5y ago
The Chrome Web Store does not require using a GMail address, for example, I don't have a GMail address and have items on the Chrome Web Store [0]. [0] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cackey/lpimdiknnpijeigckalekdccibdmeojg https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cackey/lpimdiknnpi...
- felipelemos 5y ago
  Loved the BeOS theme!
Godel_unicode 5y ago
It does not. It does require a Chrome web store account, but you can use any email address you want for that.
josteink 5y ago
> I'm guessing Chrome requires users to use a gmail account in order to submit an extension to their store. Google apps/Gsuite/Google for work (or whatever it’s called now) accounts all work fine. There’s no requirement to use a gmail.com account. Source: have published extensions on my own and for my company.
0xdba 5y ago
Wow, I looked at the review responses by the developer and assumed from the poor English that it was fake, and reported it.

donmcronald 5y ago

Talk about training users to fall for phishing schemes. Plus users have been so desensitized to entering 2FA codes they’ll type them in anywhere. I feel like web security is worse than it was 10 years ago.

thefounder 5y ago
We need webauthn not just 2FA
- throwawayboise 5y ago
  Love how the goalposts keep moving. First arcane password rules so it takes 5 minutes and half a dozen attempts to come up with a password that is accepted. Then force the user to change it often. Then add email verification. Then SMS/phone verification. Still not good enough, now we all need to have a hardware token to buy the counterfeit garbage for sale on Amazon. Fuck that. It's just not worth the trouble. Honestly the world was a lot easier (if a bit slower) when you dealt with businesses in person or via mail. Fraud and identity theft just doesn't scale in meatspace, so it was never a big problem.
  - moshmosh 5y ago
    I maintain that most of what we get from the Web and computers, as individuals, is barely better than what we had before, and not enough so to justify its costs. Shopping very much included. For some context, I grew up very much "OMG wire my brain in, let's get this future shit going!" Years of watching that future develop, and some reflection, have almost entirely reversed that sentiment, for me. For example: are streaming services convenient? Yeah, of course. Am I actually happier with them than I was with the library, rentals, and the occasional purchased movie? Marginally, if at all. (but I have Internet service for the handful of things it actually is highly beneficial for, so, may as well use streaming, too) Is shopping online convenient? Yes. Am I happier than when I just had way less idea what was available to buy, and there was more friction to indulging every little purchase-whim? I really wonder. This one may not just be marginally better, but net-harmful.
    - idiotsecant 5y ago
      I can consume an order of magnitude more diverse and interesting media than I could without the internet. I can order exactly the right thing from the internet instead of making do with a kind-of solution from the store. I think you're remembering what it was like pre-internet with rose-colored glasses. The internet is great.
      - moshmosh 5y ago
        We definitely have more of everything data-related and have a much better idea of all the stuff we can buy. I'm skeptical how far that's actually moved the happiness and life-satisfaction needles, in general. [EDIT] specifically, I think some of our "satisfaction" from this sort of consumption is itch-scratching generated by the possibility of doing it, in the same way that pre-Internet one rarely felt bothered by not knowing some piece of trivia, if no-one around happened to know either. Now it itches until someone looks it up, because you know you can find out quickly. Now if I'm not watching the best possible thing, for example, it itches, but I don't think it would have before. I think to some extent the level of choice available, aside from famously causing analysis-paralysis ("browsing Netflix" is famously an activity all its own, that may or may not end up in ever actually watching anything) also generates the very desire that it's satiating. I'm not sure I was actually less happy watching the best thing I could find at the video store, versus the best thing I can find on streaming services.
        idiotsecant 5y ago
        I don't know about you, but for me having access to youtube means that I can do things like fix my car, learn about medieval hats, see what kinds of weird animals exist, etc. These sorts of things improve my life immeasurably and definitely give me a sense of 'satisfaction' that I would not otherwise have been able to achieve paying someone to fix my car, watching a reality show on TLC, or going to the library and reading a book about ducks for the 50th time.
    - nexuist 5y ago
      Your problem isn't the Internet, it's the lack of trust busting in the tech space that prevents e.g. Disney from being able to launch its own streaming service or Amazon from promoting its own Basics products. The reason why everything sucks is because big players have zero incentive to change when they aren't punished for favoring themselves. Instagram doesn't even allow you to copy and paste photos anymore.
  - rocqua 5y ago
    Note that current best practice is simple password rules, with password expiry only when there is reason to do so. Generally the suggested rules are: be at least 12 characters long, check the password against lists of known passwords.

WarOnPrivacy 5y ago

It could be this MS extension is a companion project to the latest Windows 10 update - the News and Interests taskbar widget.

1cvmask 5y ago

Microsoft Edge requires a MS Live account.

oauea 5y ago

A Google account, which any organization that has its shit together (and uses Google properties) has set up for their domain.

mynameisvlad 5y ago
Which Microsoft, ostensibly, wouldn't be doing. Considering the whole Office 365 product exists and is a direct competitor to Google Suite.
- oauea 5y ago
  And yet here they are.

PascLeRasc 5y ago

Most of the other big extensions have their own domain email. Like Grammarly, 1Password, Zoom, Pocket. Evernote has a normal Gmail account listed. So maybe this goes hand in hand with having a bad product.

jen20 5y ago
Perhaps those orgs use Google apps?
- necovek 5y ago
  I have a Google account on an email completely unattached to any other Google services (I think it was an originally migrated pre-Google Youtube account), so I am sure you can have a Google account with any external email address.

rkeene2 5y ago

The Chrome Web Store does not require using a GMail address, for example, I don't have a GMail address and have items on the Chrome Web Store [0]. [0] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cackey/lpimdiknnpijeigckalekdccibdmeojg https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cackey/lpimdiknnpi...

felipelemos 5y ago
Loved the BeOS theme!

Godel_unicode 5y ago

It does not. It does require a Chrome web store account, but you can use any email address you want for that.

josteink 5y ago

> I'm guessing Chrome requires users to use a gmail account in order to submit an extension to their store. Google apps/Gsuite/Google for work (or whatever it’s called now) accounts all work fine. There’s no requirement to use a gmail.com account. Source: have published extensions on my own and for my company.

0xdba 5y ago

Wow, I looked at the review responses by the developer and assumed from the poor English that it was fake, and reported it.