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Just to clarify: these are the neighbours that expelled all their Jews leaving them refugees in Israel and also tried to destroy the country and many of which h

Just to clarify: these are the neighbours that expelled all their Jews leaving them refugees in Israel and also tried to destroy the country and many of which have not stopped trying for its entire history. Getting along takes two.

tomcooks 5y ago
Lol right, the rapist and the raped need to find a compromise
sofixa 5y ago
> Just to clarify: these are the neighbours that expelled all their Jews leaving them refugees in Israel and also tried to destroy the country and many of which have not stopped trying for its entire history. Getting along takes two Sure, if you decide to start there. If you start a little further away, around WWI and before WWII, you have Jews settling lands where they were a small minority en masse, and after WWII mass migration there ( for very good reasons), and active Jewish and Arab boycotts for a UN proposed and unfair towards the Arabs partition of the land ( like murdering the UN negotiator by Jews). Israel doesn't help its case for peaceful coexistence, if there is even such a case, by illegally occupying, ethnic cleansing and resettling Palestinian lands. If Israel wanted peace, it is the main party that can actually do something about it, but they do the opposite, up to and including that Israel is a country for Jews in their constitution, while refusing to acknowledge Palestine is a thing. Where should the Palestinians go?
- gataca 5y ago
  What does Jews buying swamps in pre-state Israel have to do with Iraqi or Egyptian Jews, for example, who were ethnically cleansed? I'm not seeing the connection
  - sofixa 5y ago
    The connection is that once Zionism was an actual threat and Jews were trying to get the whole of Palestine, and massacres started on both sides, Muslims around the world took the side of their "brothers" in the "war".
- sequoia 5y ago
  > Sure, if you decide to start there. You seem to imply that the ethnic cleansing of the Jews from Arab Muslim countries was “caused” by earlier events. Are you suggesting that the ethnic cleansing of Jews in all Arab-Muslim states was justified by some other Jews buying land?
  - sofixa 5y ago
    I'm saying the sectarian violence, including massacres and ethnic cleansing, on both sides, were caused by the mass Jewish migration, Zionist pretentions and ambitions, British policy in Palestine, among others. "Buying land" is a drastic simplification. When an ethnic group moves en masse to a location inhabited mostly by another ethnic group, and claim the generic land around for their own religious and ethnic group, how can that not cause problems ? Why would the majority ethnic group in the location sit idly by while they get replaced? Especially when the colonial power in charge promises them independence, and also to give their homeland to the other ethnic group, and encourages their migration there?

tomcooks 5y ago

Lol right, the rapist and the raped need to find a compromise

sofixa 5y ago

> Just to clarify: these are the neighbours that expelled all their Jews leaving them refugees in Israel and also tried to destroy the country and many of which have not stopped trying for its entire history. Getting along takes two Sure, if you decide to start there. If you start a little further away, around WWI and before WWII, you have Jews settling lands where they were a small minority en masse, and after WWII mass migration there ( for very good reasons), and active Jewish and Arab boycotts for a UN proposed and unfair towards the Arabs partition of the land ( like murdering the UN negotiator by Jews). Israel doesn't help its case for peaceful coexistence, if there is even such a case, by illegally occupying, ethnic cleansing and resettling Palestinian lands. If Israel wanted peace, it is the main party that can actually do something about it, but they do the opposite, up to and including that Israel is a country for Jews in their constitution, while refusing to acknowledge Palestine is a thing. Where should the Palestinians go?

gataca 5y ago
What does Jews buying swamps in pre-state Israel have to do with Iraqi or Egyptian Jews, for example, who were ethnically cleansed? I'm not seeing the connection
- sofixa 5y ago
  The connection is that once Zionism was an actual threat and Jews were trying to get the whole of Palestine, and massacres started on both sides, Muslims around the world took the side of their "brothers" in the "war".
sequoia 5y ago
> Sure, if you decide to start there. You seem to imply that the ethnic cleansing of the Jews from Arab Muslim countries was “caused” by earlier events. Are you suggesting that the ethnic cleansing of Jews in all Arab-Muslim states was justified by some other Jews buying land?
- sofixa 5y ago
  I'm saying the sectarian violence, including massacres and ethnic cleansing, on both sides, were caused by the mass Jewish migration, Zionist pretentions and ambitions, British policy in Palestine, among others. "Buying land" is a drastic simplification. When an ethnic group moves en masse to a location inhabited mostly by another ethnic group, and claim the generic land around for their own religious and ethnic group, how can that not cause problems ? Why would the majority ethnic group in the location sit idly by while they get replaced? Especially when the colonial power in charge promises them independence, and also to give their homeland to the other ethnic group, and encourages their migration there?