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> Now considering the fact Palestine only has rockets and not missiles, I doubt that imagery is of much value to them. A high resolution image would be very us

> Now considering the fact Palestine only has rockets and not missiles, I doubt that imagery is of much value to them. A high resolution image would be very useful to anyone who is planning a terror attack with suicide bombers, for example.

markdown 5y ago
As we've already established, since Israel can and does already bomb and slaughter Palestinians wholesale with the use of their tech, taking the ability of Palestinian suicide bombers to launch their own attacks is basically giving one side the upper hand and helping them in their genocide. If we can't stop Israel, we need to arm Palestine so they can hit back.
- Zhenya 5y ago
  "slaughter wholesale" I think we'll need a reference for that. As far as I can tell, warning civilians to evacuate buildings is QUITE the opposite of wholesale slaughter.
  - markdown 5y ago
    > "slaughter wholesale" Almost 200 dead in a few days. If you don't consider that slaughter than I urge you to ask yourself "WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH ME?" > As far as I can tell, warning civilians to evacuate buildings is QUITE the opposite of wholesale slaughter. Shooting missiles into densely populated areas where half the population is children and their deaths are guaranteed isn't the opposite of wholesale slaughter. That's guaranteed wholesale slaughter.
- throwhn331 5y ago
  "genocide" Patently false claim. About 210 Gaza civilians have been killed in this war, out of 2 million, despite efforts to minimize civilian deaths. It's definitionally not genocide.
- eloff 5y ago
  Woah, you've gone pretty far off the deep end. You'd do well to remember there are two sides to any conflict (as my parents drilled into us whenever my brother and I would blame each other). In my opinion you can see Israel exercising serious restraint, evacuating people from a target first when possible, firing warning shots before the real attack. Hamas on the other hand is indiscriminately firing over 3000 rockets at Israel civilians. That's like what the Nazis did to London with their V2 rockets. Now there is a big power imbalance here, and I feel for the Palestinians, but they're hardly the good guys here. That's terrorism, plain and simple. No country would tolerate that.
  - cutemonster 5y ago
    > the Palestinians, but they're hardly the good guys Do you need to write "the Palestinians"? Sounds as if everyone were to blame for the rockets, but less than 1% of the people in Gaza, are in Hamas military wing. Would it be weird to write "Hamas" instead about those who fire rockets? Or "terrorists in Hamas". (but please don't blame everyone for what a few are doing) And in the same way, I wouldn't say that the Israelis are taking land from Palestinians on the west bank -- instead I'd write "the state and the settlers" take land. And that's also a small percentage of everyone, .. hmm seems it's somewhere between 5 and 10%, so more than 90% never did that
    - eloff 5y ago
      No. I feel for the plight of the Palestinian people. I don't give a rat's ass for Hamas. Don't forget Hamas is the legitimate elected government in Gaza, you cannot just say they're a fringe group not supported by the people of Gaza. Now Palestinians also encompass the West Bank where Hamas is not the government. But part of the reason for these rocket attacks is Hamas trying to demonstrate that they're the representatives of all Palestinians in a bid to rule both Gaza and the West Bank. Regardless of their actual chances of pulling that off, it does seem to be part of the calculus here.
      - cutemonster 5y ago
        > Don't forget Hamas is the legitimate elected government What do you think is the background for that? I had a look at Wikipedia about Hamas, look how they grew more popular and became more violent: > ... Jewish settler in military fatigues, massacred 29 Muslims at prayer in the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron [year 1994] in the West Bank during the month of Ramadan. An additional 19 Palestinians were killed by Israeli forces in the ensuing riots > ... Hebron massacre had a profound effect on Hamas' militancy. For its first seven years, it attacked only what it saw as "legitimate military targets," Israeli soldiers and military installations.[77] But following the massacre, it felt that it no longer had to distinguish between military and civilian targets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Origins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Origins Seems to me it's a spiral of dislike and violence, driven by a few violent people among both groups. Then, about the elections: (same Wikipedia page) > ... Hamas ran on a platform of clean government, a thorough overhaul of the corrupt administrative system, and the issue of rampant lawlessness.[190][191] The PA, notoriously riddled with corruption ... Does it sound as if the voters voted for rocket attacks? Or did they vote for stopping corruption (and then, years later, turns out Hamas is equally (or more) corrupted and worse in so many other ways)
rock_artist 5y ago
Just worth mentioning, street view is available and updated regularly within Israel main cities.
- MichaelMoser123 5y ago
  not without controversy, apparently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View_in_Israel#Issues https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View_in_Israel#I... "There was much controversy surrounding bringing Street View to Israel. The main one was the fear that terrorists could use the feature to plan attacks. Palestinian militants have previously admitted to using Google Maps to help plan attacks."

markdown 5y ago

As we've already established, since Israel can and does already bomb and slaughter Palestinians wholesale with the use of their tech, taking the ability of Palestinian suicide bombers to launch their own attacks is basically giving one side the upper hand and helping them in their genocide. If we can't stop Israel, we need to arm Palestine so they can hit back.

Zhenya 5y ago
"slaughter wholesale" I think we'll need a reference for that. As far as I can tell, warning civilians to evacuate buildings is QUITE the opposite of wholesale slaughter.
- markdown 5y ago
  > "slaughter wholesale" Almost 200 dead in a few days. If you don't consider that slaughter than I urge you to ask yourself "WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH ME?" > As far as I can tell, warning civilians to evacuate buildings is QUITE the opposite of wholesale slaughter. Shooting missiles into densely populated areas where half the population is children and their deaths are guaranteed isn't the opposite of wholesale slaughter. That's guaranteed wholesale slaughter.
throwhn331 5y ago
"genocide" Patently false claim. About 210 Gaza civilians have been killed in this war, out of 2 million, despite efforts to minimize civilian deaths. It's definitionally not genocide.
eloff 5y ago
Woah, you've gone pretty far off the deep end. You'd do well to remember there are two sides to any conflict (as my parents drilled into us whenever my brother and I would blame each other). In my opinion you can see Israel exercising serious restraint, evacuating people from a target first when possible, firing warning shots before the real attack. Hamas on the other hand is indiscriminately firing over 3000 rockets at Israel civilians. That's like what the Nazis did to London with their V2 rockets. Now there is a big power imbalance here, and I feel for the Palestinians, but they're hardly the good guys here. That's terrorism, plain and simple. No country would tolerate that.
- cutemonster 5y ago
  > the Palestinians, but they're hardly the good guys Do you need to write "the Palestinians"? Sounds as if everyone were to blame for the rockets, but less than 1% of the people in Gaza, are in Hamas military wing. Would it be weird to write "Hamas" instead about those who fire rockets? Or "terrorists in Hamas". (but please don't blame everyone for what a few are doing) And in the same way, I wouldn't say that the Israelis are taking land from Palestinians on the west bank -- instead I'd write "the state and the settlers" take land. And that's also a small percentage of everyone, .. hmm seems it's somewhere between 5 and 10%, so more than 90% never did that
  - eloff 5y ago
    No. I feel for the plight of the Palestinian people. I don't give a rat's ass for Hamas. Don't forget Hamas is the legitimate elected government in Gaza, you cannot just say they're a fringe group not supported by the people of Gaza. Now Palestinians also encompass the West Bank where Hamas is not the government. But part of the reason for these rocket attacks is Hamas trying to demonstrate that they're the representatives of all Palestinians in a bid to rule both Gaza and the West Bank. Regardless of their actual chances of pulling that off, it does seem to be part of the calculus here.
    - cutemonster 5y ago
      > Don't forget Hamas is the legitimate elected government What do you think is the background for that? I had a look at Wikipedia about Hamas, look how they grew more popular and became more violent: > ... Jewish settler in military fatigues, massacred 29 Muslims at prayer in the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron [year 1994] in the West Bank during the month of Ramadan. An additional 19 Palestinians were killed by Israeli forces in the ensuing riots > ... Hebron massacre had a profound effect on Hamas' militancy. For its first seven years, it attacked only what it saw as "legitimate military targets," Israeli soldiers and military installations.[77] But following the massacre, it felt that it no longer had to distinguish between military and civilian targets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Origins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Origins Seems to me it's a spiral of dislike and violence, driven by a few violent people among both groups. Then, about the elections: (same Wikipedia page) > ... Hamas ran on a platform of clean government, a thorough overhaul of the corrupt administrative system, and the issue of rampant lawlessness.[190][191] The PA, notoriously riddled with corruption ... Does it sound as if the voters voted for rocket attacks? Or did they vote for stopping corruption (and then, years later, turns out Hamas is equally (or more) corrupted and worse in so many other ways)

rock_artist 5y ago

Just worth mentioning, street view is available and updated regularly within Israel main cities.

MichaelMoser123 5y ago
not without controversy, apparently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View_in_Israel#Issues https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View_in_Israel#I... "There was much controversy surrounding bringing Street View to Israel. The main one was the fear that terrorists could use the feature to plan attacks. Palestinian militants have previously admitted to using Google Maps to help plan attacks."