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Thinking? I didn't do any. I divided the #pop by #area in units I can relate to (Km^2), then looked at the table and figured out it would be #5.

• sequoia 5y ago
  Ok I think I’m able to piece back together what you’re talking about: it sounds like you’re ranking Gaza on the list of most densely populated “Country (or dependent territory)” but excluding cities. The article refers to it as one of the most densely populated “places” in the world. What’s the reason for excluding cities when ranking the most densely populated places in the world? When I imagine “the most densely populated places in the world” I think first of cities, I assume most people do.
  • eightysixfour 5y ago
    They are not removing cities blindly, they are only including cities with more than 1m people. That removes places like Pateros which, while incredibly dense, are not particularly populous.
    • sequoia 5y ago
      Avip is not including cities when s/he ranks Gaza #5, s/he is only including countries. If I asked you "what's the most densely populated place in the world?" you would probably answer with the name of a city. Avip is excluding cities from his "densely populated places" ranking. This doesn't make sense to me. If you say "world's most densely populated places" of course I'm going to think of cities, as anyone would.
  • jakelazaroff 5y ago
    Because Gaza is, for all intents and purposes, a city-state, like Singapore or Hong Kong. It’s not really one part of a larger nation, so it doesn’t make sense to compare it to places that are. It’s also being blockaded by its neighbors, so there is no freedom of movement in or out. If rockets are fired at Bnei Brak, the residents there can flee to the rest of Israel. If rockets are fired at Gaza, the residents have nowhere to go.
    • sequoia 5y ago
      > If rockets are fired at Bnei Brak, the residents there can flee to the rest of Israel. When rockets rain down on their homes, citizens of Bnei Brak can flee from their homes in car or on foot, go ??? somewhere (where exactly?) and hope they’re not blown to bits along the way. Wow, those privileged Israelis. The very lap of luxury.
      • jakelazaroff 5y ago
        Israel isn't big, but there are plenty of less likely (and less dense) targets than the Tel Aviv metropolitan area. Israelis can also leave the country. That's not "luxurious", but those are privileges that residents of Gaza don't have. I'm not sure why you're responding so aggressively; you asked why Gaza is singled out as densely populated, and that's the answer.
        • sequoia 5y ago
          I’m responding with derision because you’re so casually hand-waving away attacks on Israel as no big deal or not the same because they are “able to flee” (you still haven’t specified where is the safe place they can flee to). Have some empathy for Israeli civilians, just as you have empathy for Gazan civilians. As for the technical question of “most densely populated“ or “more densely populated“ I don’t know why people keep bringing up stuff like supposed “ability to flee“ “bordered by other countries or by the sea or surrounded by countryside“ when arguing about population density. None of these things change the population density. Otherwise I could say “Hawaii is extremely densely populated by virtue of the fact that it’s really really really far from continental mainlands“ which makes no sense.
          • jakelazaroff 5y ago
            The fact of the matter is that Israeli civilians have options that Gazan Palestinians do not. I'm empathetic to them as well — it's horrible that anyone has to fear being killed in a conflict. But there is absolutely a disparity, and it's not "hand-waving" to note that it exists without qualification. That disparity, by the way, is exactly why it doesn't make sense to compare Gaza to cities with regard to population density. It's technically a city, but that's really not an apples-to-apples comparison. For all intents and purposes it's a country/territory, by which standard it is one of the most densely populated in the world.