>I do believe that the zeitgeist that wants to abolish or defund the police does genuinely mean that they do not want the police to exist in any capacity. I th

>I do believe that the zeitgeist that wants to abolish or defund the police does genuinely mean that they do not want the police to exist in any capacity. I think that idea / narrative makes it easy to circumvent any reasonable discussion on the topic in the political / media sphere. I think we're nearly at a critical point, if not already. The police were so brazen to beat up and gas news people covering protests, while being filmed doing it. I'm not a big fan of Vox, but here's a fairly comprehensive article (with video) of what went on. https://www.vox.com/identities/2020/5/31/21276013/police-targeted-journalists-covering-george-floyd-protests https://www.vox.com/identities/2020/5/31/21276013/police-tar... To use a bit of rhetoric, this doesn't look like policing, this looks like occupation.