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Any actual scientist (and not an "expert") know how long these things take. It took from 2002 to 2020 (edit: or was it 2018? I can't remember) to find a closely

by Dah00n 5y ago

Any actual scientist (and not an "expert") know how long these things take. It took from 2002 to 2020 (edit: or was it 2018? I can't remember) to find a closely related SARS host (as in "not a match but close enough to point to a likely cause"). I find it very telling that we get lots of articles stating lots of stuff but not really any real scientific research papers on the source. I'm also not seeing any of these scientists volunteer to live for years in remote locations taking anal swaps of animals to actually find the cause. I believe what we are seeing are the science equivalent to armchair generals.

marcell 5y ago
What do you make of the claim in this article [1], which says that intermediate host species were found within 4 months of SARS1 outbreak, and within 9 months of MERS outbreak? Admittedly I can't find the underlying source for his claims. [1] https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038 https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-th...
- Dah00n 5y ago
  I haven't read it but an intermediate host is a link between humans and the original host. The intermediate host was quickly found. I linked this elsewhere in the thread: >"As no direct progenitor of SARS-CoV was found in bat populations despite 15 years of searching and as RNA recombination is frequent within coronaviruses, it is highly likely that SARS-CoV newly emerged through recombination of bat SARSr-CoVs in this or other yet-to-be-identified bat caves." They also write... >"After the causative agent of SARS was identified, SARS-CoV and/or anti-SARS-CoV antibodies were found in masked palm civets (Paguma larvata) and animal handlers in a market place. However, later, wide-reaching investigations of farmed and wild-caught civets revealed that the SARS-CoV strains found in market civets were transmitted to them by other animals." Sorry if I made a mess of this as I'm on my phone and commented on more than on post too quickly really.. Edit: Woops, forgot the source. I knew it would be a mess.. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7097006/#!po=11.1842 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7097006/#!po=11...

by Dah00n 5y ago

marcell 5y ago

What do you make of the claim in this article [1], which says that intermediate host species were found within 4 months of SARS1 outbreak, and within 9 months of MERS outbreak? Admittedly I can't find the underlying source for his claims. [1] https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038 https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-th...

Dah00n 5y ago
I haven't read it but an intermediate host is a link between humans and the original host. The intermediate host was quickly found. I linked this elsewhere in the thread: >"As no direct progenitor of SARS-CoV was found in bat populations despite 15 years of searching and as RNA recombination is frequent within coronaviruses, it is highly likely that SARS-CoV newly emerged through recombination of bat SARSr-CoVs in this or other yet-to-be-identified bat caves." They also write... >"After the causative agent of SARS was identified, SARS-CoV and/or anti-SARS-CoV antibodies were found in masked palm civets (Paguma larvata) and animal handlers in a market place. However, later, wide-reaching investigations of farmed and wild-caught civets revealed that the SARS-CoV strains found in market civets were transmitted to them by other animals." Sorry if I made a mess of this as I'm on my phone and commented on more than on post too quickly really.. Edit: Woops, forgot the source. I knew it would be a mess.. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7097006/#!po=11.1842 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7097006/#!po=11...