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The project maintainer has stated below that it's "jolie" (French for "pretty"), not Jolie the actress.

didibus 5y ago
I'm a french speaker, Jolie is a common woman name, yes it also means pretty, but that's like people called Lily or Prince. The logo is also a woman's eye + brow. It's possible the author was going for the meaning of pretty, but there still seem to be a strong personification happening with emphasis on it being a beautiful woman, and it's that aspect that unease me. Again, you can call your language however you choose too, and I'm not going to judge it by its name, but I still personally find this womanization trend in programming language names a bit weird. I'll probably get used to it, though it does feel like an interesting meta-psycholigical subject as well. Where are the programming languages named John, Richard and David? Why are we calling a language by a person's name? Why are their logo becoming human facial features?
- The_Amp_Walrus 5y ago
  Intra-male competition Telling that Jenkins is a servant
- Zababa 5y ago
  > Jolie is a common woman name Where? It's not even on the INSEE tool https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/3532172 https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/3532172, according to their "Fichier des prénoms" (https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/2540004 https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/2540004), there are currently 39 persons named "Jolie" in France. This is not to dismiss the rest of what you said, I'm just curious as to where "Jolie" is a common woman name.
  - didibus 5y ago
    Well, I had never really researched this, but I'm from Quebec, and I know 3 Jolie. Maybe it's more prevalent there, or maybe I happen to know a coincidentally large number of them. If the latter, I guess that is a good learning experience for how your own life experience can easily bias you in your opinions and understanding of some things.
    - Zababa 5y ago
      I was curious about this so I searched around a bit and found the data for girls names from 1980 to 2020 [1]. I've found 269 people with first name containing "Jolie". Then I took the census data [1], found that 45% of Quebec females are under 40. So extrapolating from the first number, I find 524 females with Jolie in their names in Quebec. That means 1 in 7915 female in Quebec has Jolie in her name, compared to around 1 in 1 million for France. That explains (in part) how you know 3 and I don't know any I think. [1]: https://www.donneesquebec.ca/recherche/dataset/banque-de-prenoms-filles https://www.donneesquebec.ca/recherche/dataset/banque-de-pre... [2]: https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2016/dp-pd/prof/details/page.cfm?Lang=E&Geo1=PR&Code1=24&Geo2=PR&Code2=01&Data=Count&SearchText=24&SearchType=Begins&SearchPR=01&B1=All&Custom=&TABID=3 https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2016/dp-pd/pr...
      - didibus 5y ago
        Interesting, thanks for looking it up. I quite like the name personally, though it still seems I have some chance in my sample, since I do not know 7915 woman, so to know 3 Jolie still seems a little lucky.
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I'm a french speaker, Jolie is a common woman name, yes it also means pretty, but that's like people called Lily or Prince. The logo is also a woman's eye + brow. It's possible the author was going for the meaning of pretty, but there still seem to be a strong personification happening with emphasis on it being a beautiful woman, and it's that aspect that unease me. Again, you can call your language however you choose too, and I'm not going to judge it by its name, but I still personally find this womanization trend in programming language names a bit weird. I'll probably get used to it, though it does feel like an interesting meta-psycholigical subject as well. Where are the programming languages named John, Richard and David? Why are we calling a language by a person's name? Why are their logo becoming human facial features?

The_Amp_Walrus 5y ago
Intra-male competition Telling that Jenkins is a servant
Zababa 5y ago
> Jolie is a common woman name Where? It's not even on the INSEE tool https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/3532172 https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/3532172, according to their "Fichier des prénoms" (https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/2540004 https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/2540004), there are currently 39 persons named "Jolie" in France. This is not to dismiss the rest of what you said, I'm just curious as to where "Jolie" is a common woman name.
- didibus 5y ago
  Well, I had never really researched this, but I'm from Quebec, and I know 3 Jolie. Maybe it's more prevalent there, or maybe I happen to know a coincidentally large number of them. If the latter, I guess that is a good learning experience for how your own life experience can easily bias you in your opinions and understanding of some things.
  - Zababa 5y ago
    I was curious about this so I searched around a bit and found the data for girls names from 1980 to 2020 [1]. I've found 269 people with first name containing "Jolie". Then I took the census data [1], found that 45% of Quebec females are under 40. So extrapolating from the first number, I find 524 females with Jolie in their names in Quebec. That means 1 in 7915 female in Quebec has Jolie in her name, compared to around 1 in 1 million for France. That explains (in part) how you know 3 and I don't know any I think. [1]: https://www.donneesquebec.ca/recherche/dataset/banque-de-prenoms-filles https://www.donneesquebec.ca/recherche/dataset/banque-de-pre... [2]: https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2016/dp-pd/prof/details/page.cfm?Lang=E&Geo1=PR&Code1=24&Geo2=PR&Code2=01&Data=Count&SearchText=24&SearchType=Begins&SearchPR=01&B1=All&Custom=&TABID=3 https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2016/dp-pd/pr...
    - didibus 5y ago
      Interesting, thanks for looking it up. I quite like the name personally, though it still seems I have some chance in my sample, since I do not know 7915 woman, so to know 3 Jolie still seems a little lucky.
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