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It was only briefly touched on but this is the candidate for Governor of Washington State who lost by over half a million votes in an election with fewer than 5

It was only briefly touched on but this is the candidate for Governor of Washington State who lost by over half a million votes in an election with fewer than 5 million votes. This is to say he lost by a city not a country mile because he was very popular in Eastern WA where around 25% of the population lives but a dud elsewhere. This is pretty much par for the course in a state divided by both a mountain range and political ideology but what was unusual is that along with Trump Culp promoted the big lie that Trump had only lost the election because of rampant cheating and rolled Washington State into this perverse narrative with a side order of immigrant hate by making them the villains that stole WA from both Trump and Culp. According to Culp he and Trump were the proper inheritors of power in Washington and the nation. He even promised to uncover and reverse the fraud through lawsuits although he lacked the money to go through the show of reclaiming his "rightful place" via lawsuit he still fund raised off it as if he was going to and his fan club crowed about how great it would be when our actual governor was perp walked to depending on whom you asked prison or execution for treason. He is a disease right up their with the eastern Washington congressman Matt Shea whom we somehow just recently got rid of who published a paper on the biblical basis for war wherein it discussed the creation of an ISIS like biblical state following the fall of America in which wrong thinking women would be subjugated and wrong thinking men would simply be murdered. From Matt Sheas writing Under one heading, “Rules of War,” it makes a chilling prescription for enemies who flout “biblical law.” It states, “If they do not yield – kill all males.” https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/oct/26/rep-matt-shea-takes-credit-criticism-for-document-/ https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/oct/26/rep-matt-shea-... Even in our relatively liberal states the right is breeding ideologues, traitors, and terrorists who make real and solid the claims and fears that proponents of the red scare imagined. It turns out their fan fiction was written while looking into a mirror.

waiseristy 5y ago
It is very typical of Western WA residents to blame the East side for voting red. King, Pierce, and Snohomish had more votes for Culp than the entire east side of the state combined. The Cascades are a mountain range, not some magical political wall
- michaelmrose 5y ago
  Looking at the exact numbers 21% of people in Washington live in Eastern Washington whereas those 3 counties you listed house 52% of the state. It makes sense that even if you had less Culp voters proportionally if you look at over half the state you will find more people in absolute numbers. Your cherry picked absolute numbers are less functional than looking at proportions. Lets go to the map! https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/washington/ https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/washington/ 2020 Election Results By County: King: Biden 75.4% Trump: 22.4% Pierce: Biden 54.2% Trump: 42.9% Snohomish: Biden 58.9% Trump 38.2% Eastern WA Stevens: Biden 27.7% Trump 70% Douglas: Biden 36.9% Trump 61.2% Spokane: Biden 46.3% Trump 50.7% Through most of Eastern WA Trump got 60-70% of the vote in a state where overall he got 39% of the vote. The division is extremely clear. In case its not lets look at Culps race. https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/washington/governor/ https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/washington/go... King: Inslee 74.3% Culp 25.7% Spokane: Inslee 45% Culp 55% Stevens: Inslee 26.1% Culp 73.9 If Eastern WA was its own state it would be as Red as Tennessee. If Western WA was its own state it would be bluer than California.
  - waiseristy 5y ago
    There is no doubt that there is a divide in voting proportionality between Eastern and Western WA. > This is to say he lost by a city not a country mile because he was very popular in Eastern WA where around 25% of the population lives but a dud elsewhere. He very much did not lose by a city vs a country mile because of 21% of the vote that went 65-35. The race was close-ish because 1.2 million Western WA residents voted for him
    - michaelmrose 5y ago
      Washintonians and the government of the state of Washington consider counties east of king county "Eastern Washington" https://wsdot.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2017/07/24/Env-Wet-EastWestBoundary.pdf https://wsdot.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2017/07/24/Env-Wet-... Just did a quick back of the envelope tabulation and I get about 2 million for Biden vs 1.1 million for Trump in western WA which means that Biden got about 65% of the vote in western WA which is a larger percentage than Biden got in CA as a whole.
kyleblarson 5y ago
Nice work generalizing anyone who lives east of the crest as mouth breathing cretins (myself included). Now I'll do some generalization: I'll take my basically crime free town in the mountains where I know everyone and the only real concern is stepping on a rattlesnake on my daily trail run over rampant crime, homeless camps, open air drug markets, human waste on the sidewalks, public parks that are completely unusable for fear of stepping on a used needle, nightly riots, endless traffic and city councils who actively work to destroy their cities.
- michaelmrose 5y ago
  I do not assume every person on that side of the state is any sort of cretin. I assume that an above average number have baseline views on reality that are so off the beam as to dangerous and unbalanced. Which is why they vote for people like Culp and Trump not stupidity. I will do you the courtesy of assuming you could very well be a reasonable person with your own perspective instead of assuming you are dumb. Dismissing the problem with facile insults degrades the dialogue and avoids dealing with the actual problems that face us which isn't as simple as saying hurr hurr you're stupid. The Republicans have been presenting themselves as the party of white identity for decades at the expense of support from anyone other than Bob the white man. They are now incapable of pivoting to a broader platform without losing Bob. Favoring the bird in the hand they have begun selling bob on the Fable that nonwhites are stealing their country in hopes that they can pass repressive enough measures to stay in power for a few more years or even end democracy itself if that is what it takes. The majority of Republicans would rather lose democracy than lose their country, as they see it, to brown people and colorblind white folks. The simple fact is Republican support with nonwhites being what it is and our nations racial demographics trajectory being what it is loss is inevitable. By the 2040s America will be only 49% white and someone who does only as well as Ronald Reagan will only lose as bad as Mondale did to Reagan. If you project their performance with whites and non-whites into 2040s demographics this is true for every Republican since Reagan. The propaganda that has been increasingly effectively pushed on the right since the dawn of social media is a show to cover their incipient and growing weakness and as loss looms closer it stands to grow and the situation stands to grow more volatile. Standing on one side and screeching is an ineffective solution when what we need is a large enough critical mass of sane people on the opposing side keep things straight. In service of this we do need to together call a spade a spade. Eastern WA like the rest of team red is on the crazy train. Its great and all that you deal with less property crime and bums in small town America but I'd rather deal with bums and vandalism than in the ISIS like ethnostate Shea would like to enact or the Dystopian post Democracy wonderland people like Culp fervently supported where either the courts or the military fills in democracies death certificate and gives its goods and titles to a fascist pretender. The same people you see as fit stewards of their small towns and cities are unfit to run nations because literally every time they do they botch the job.

waiseristy 5y ago

It is very typical of Western WA residents to blame the East side for voting red. King, Pierce, and Snohomish had more votes for Culp than the entire east side of the state combined. The Cascades are a mountain range, not some magical political wall

michaelmrose 5y ago
Looking at the exact numbers 21% of people in Washington live in Eastern Washington whereas those 3 counties you listed house 52% of the state. It makes sense that even if you had less Culp voters proportionally if you look at over half the state you will find more people in absolute numbers. Your cherry picked absolute numbers are less functional than looking at proportions. Lets go to the map! https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/washington/ https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/washington/ 2020 Election Results By County: King: Biden 75.4% Trump: 22.4% Pierce: Biden 54.2% Trump: 42.9% Snohomish: Biden 58.9% Trump 38.2% Eastern WA Stevens: Biden 27.7% Trump 70% Douglas: Biden 36.9% Trump 61.2% Spokane: Biden 46.3% Trump 50.7% Through most of Eastern WA Trump got 60-70% of the vote in a state where overall he got 39% of the vote. The division is extremely clear. In case its not lets look at Culps race. https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/washington/governor/ https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/washington/go... King: Inslee 74.3% Culp 25.7% Spokane: Inslee 45% Culp 55% Stevens: Inslee 26.1% Culp 73.9 If Eastern WA was its own state it would be as Red as Tennessee. If Western WA was its own state it would be bluer than California.
- waiseristy 5y ago
  There is no doubt that there is a divide in voting proportionality between Eastern and Western WA. > This is to say he lost by a city not a country mile because he was very popular in Eastern WA where around 25% of the population lives but a dud elsewhere. He very much did not lose by a city vs a country mile because of 21% of the vote that went 65-35. The race was close-ish because 1.2 million Western WA residents voted for him
  - michaelmrose 5y ago
    Washintonians and the government of the state of Washington consider counties east of king county "Eastern Washington" https://wsdot.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2017/07/24/Env-Wet-EastWestBoundary.pdf https://wsdot.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2017/07/24/Env-Wet-... Just did a quick back of the envelope tabulation and I get about 2 million for Biden vs 1.1 million for Trump in western WA which means that Biden got about 65% of the vote in western WA which is a larger percentage than Biden got in CA as a whole.

kyleblarson 5y ago

Nice work generalizing anyone who lives east of the crest as mouth breathing cretins (myself included). Now I'll do some generalization: I'll take my basically crime free town in the mountains where I know everyone and the only real concern is stepping on a rattlesnake on my daily trail run over rampant crime, homeless camps, open air drug markets, human waste on the sidewalks, public parks that are completely unusable for fear of stepping on a used needle, nightly riots, endless traffic and city councils who actively work to destroy their cities.

michaelmrose 5y ago
I do not assume every person on that side of the state is any sort of cretin. I assume that an above average number have baseline views on reality that are so off the beam as to dangerous and unbalanced. Which is why they vote for people like Culp and Trump not stupidity. I will do you the courtesy of assuming you could very well be a reasonable person with your own perspective instead of assuming you are dumb. Dismissing the problem with facile insults degrades the dialogue and avoids dealing with the actual problems that face us which isn't as simple as saying hurr hurr you're stupid. The Republicans have been presenting themselves as the party of white identity for decades at the expense of support from anyone other than Bob the white man. They are now incapable of pivoting to a broader platform without losing Bob. Favoring the bird in the hand they have begun selling bob on the Fable that nonwhites are stealing their country in hopes that they can pass repressive enough measures to stay in power for a few more years or even end democracy itself if that is what it takes. The majority of Republicans would rather lose democracy than lose their country, as they see it, to brown people and colorblind white folks. The simple fact is Republican support with nonwhites being what it is and our nations racial demographics trajectory being what it is loss is inevitable. By the 2040s America will be only 49% white and someone who does only as well as Ronald Reagan will only lose as bad as Mondale did to Reagan. If you project their performance with whites and non-whites into 2040s demographics this is true for every Republican since Reagan. The propaganda that has been increasingly effectively pushed on the right since the dawn of social media is a show to cover their incipient and growing weakness and as loss looms closer it stands to grow and the situation stands to grow more volatile. Standing on one side and screeching is an ineffective solution when what we need is a large enough critical mass of sane people on the opposing side keep things straight. In service of this we do need to together call a spade a spade. Eastern WA like the rest of team red is on the crazy train. Its great and all that you deal with less property crime and bums in small town America but I'd rather deal with bums and vandalism than in the ISIS like ethnostate Shea would like to enact or the Dystopian post Democracy wonderland people like Culp fervently supported where either the courts or the military fills in democracies death certificate and gives its goods and titles to a fascist pretender. The same people you see as fit stewards of their small towns and cities are unfit to run nations because literally every time they do they botch the job.