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How many of these people are working three or four jobs ?

petee 5y ago
Likely a decent number. Sometimes it's just the hours at one. A job I worked once had us doing 14 hour minimums with a rolling start (Monday start at 7am, by Friday start at 3pm), until two of the guys fell asleep on the ride home within one week, one barely surviving hitting a parked garbage truck, and the other ran a red light and flipped some guys minivan. After that we were working 12 hour days instead, in part due to workers saying enoughs enough Sleep in the film industry is a big issue; years ago Heskel Wexler made a great documentary about it after his camera assistant died driving home, it's called "Who Needs Sleep"
- sethammons 5y ago
  the film industry, sleep, and driving one sparked a memory. i took a film production elective while completing my undergrad. The class left and I stayed behind to finish up. A while later, they walked back in. Confused, I wondered if they all forgot something. Nope. Turned out it was the next class session! I hadn't moved in nearly 24 hours, and was awake at this point for at least 40 hours. I then had over an hour drive home up a curvy mountain road (at night) with thousand foot cliffs. I actually full on hallucinated. 1/3: A giant SUV (20' tall) was reversing onto the highway. I slammed on the breaks only to realize it wasn't there. 2/3: A bit later, a hundred foot tall heavy woman in a moo moo standing akimbo over the road. I recall telling myself to not look up as I passed underneath. 3/3: someone reversing their boat and trailer onto the road, but the boat was 20' tall (my mind had _something_ going on with giants I guess). By that point, I just drove through the illusion, and, after, realized just how scary that was. Finally got home, and I recall aiming for my pillow and being asleep before hitting the mattress.
  - spaetzleesser 5y ago
    You were lucky. You could easily have killed somebody on the way and ended up in prison.
    - sethammons 5y ago
      Oh absolutely. It was not a good idea.
    - exhilaration 5y ago
      At least in the U.S. vehicular homicide (that doesn't involve drugs or alcohol) is usually no more than a ticket. Maybe they'll suspend your license for a couple of months. Prison? Pretty much never.
      - spaetzleesser 5y ago
        Don’t publish this too much...
  - stordoff 5y ago
    I've never realised that hallucinations could occur so early, comparatively speaking, into sleep deprivation. I been awake for far longer on a few occasions (longest was a little over 110 hours), and only experienced minor visual effects (trails behind moving objects). I wonder to what degree it differs between people. Mentally though, I was a bit of a mess. I was more or less whilst I was focusing on the thing I was working on, but as soon as I stopped, everything just felt muddy and unclear. I wasn't even sure I was going to find my way to a building I'd walked to multiple times a week for the last three years.
johncessna 5y ago
We should really start using hours per week instead of number of jobs. It's too easy to push an agenda with the latter. 'I work 3 jobs' reads differently than 'I work 45 hours a week'
- kevinh 5y ago
  Number of hours can also be misleading. I work 40 hours a week at one job. Someone who worked 40 hours a week at three jobs would certainly have more difficulties at work, like more commutes, more context switching, not having the benefits that arise from a full time job, etc.
- offtop5 5y ago
  The issue is each job might have you on call. So you can have some 80 hour work weeks and 8 hour weeks.
- tdeck 5y ago
  It does matter how many jobs you work though, because low-wage employees arrange things so nobody gets 30 hours a week to qualify for full time benefits. Also the kinds of jobs that people who work 3-4 jobs often work typically have chaotic schedules that aren't set well in advance, meaning that they inevitably come into conflict creating stress and the potential to be fired for not being able to show up at one of them.
  - tdeck 5y ago
    Realize I meant to type "employers" here.

Likely a decent number. Sometimes it's just the hours at one. A job I worked once had us doing 14 hour minimums with a rolling start (Monday start at 7am, by Friday start at 3pm), until two of the guys fell asleep on the ride home within one week, one barely surviving hitting a parked garbage truck, and the other ran a red light and flipped some guys minivan. After that we were working 12 hour days instead, in part due to workers saying enoughs enough Sleep in the film industry is a big issue; years ago Heskel Wexler made a great documentary about it after his camera assistant died driving home, it's called "Who Needs Sleep"

sethammons 5y ago
the film industry, sleep, and driving one sparked a memory. i took a film production elective while completing my undergrad. The class left and I stayed behind to finish up. A while later, they walked back in. Confused, I wondered if they all forgot something. Nope. Turned out it was the next class session! I hadn't moved in nearly 24 hours, and was awake at this point for at least 40 hours. I then had over an hour drive home up a curvy mountain road (at night) with thousand foot cliffs. I actually full on hallucinated. 1/3: A giant SUV (20' tall) was reversing onto the highway. I slammed on the breaks only to realize it wasn't there. 2/3: A bit later, a hundred foot tall heavy woman in a moo moo standing akimbo over the road. I recall telling myself to not look up as I passed underneath. 3/3: someone reversing their boat and trailer onto the road, but the boat was 20' tall (my mind had _something_ going on with giants I guess). By that point, I just drove through the illusion, and, after, realized just how scary that was. Finally got home, and I recall aiming for my pillow and being asleep before hitting the mattress.
- spaetzleesser 5y ago
  You were lucky. You could easily have killed somebody on the way and ended up in prison.
  - sethammons 5y ago
    Oh absolutely. It was not a good idea.
  - exhilaration 5y ago
    At least in the U.S. vehicular homicide (that doesn't involve drugs or alcohol) is usually no more than a ticket. Maybe they'll suspend your license for a couple of months. Prison? Pretty much never.
    - spaetzleesser 5y ago
      Don’t publish this too much...
- stordoff 5y ago
  I've never realised that hallucinations could occur so early, comparatively speaking, into sleep deprivation. I been awake for far longer on a few occasions (longest was a little over 110 hours), and only experienced minor visual effects (trails behind moving objects). I wonder to what degree it differs between people. Mentally though, I was a bit of a mess. I was more or less whilst I was focusing on the thing I was working on, but as soon as I stopped, everything just felt muddy and unclear. I wasn't even sure I was going to find my way to a building I'd walked to multiple times a week for the last three years.

johncessna 5y ago

We should really start using hours per week instead of number of jobs. It's too easy to push an agenda with the latter. 'I work 3 jobs' reads differently than 'I work 45 hours a week'

kevinh 5y ago
Number of hours can also be misleading. I work 40 hours a week at one job. Someone who worked 40 hours a week at three jobs would certainly have more difficulties at work, like more commutes, more context switching, not having the benefits that arise from a full time job, etc.
offtop5 5y ago
The issue is each job might have you on call. So you can have some 80 hour work weeks and 8 hour weeks.
tdeck 5y ago
It does matter how many jobs you work though, because low-wage employees arrange things so nobody gets 30 hours a week to qualify for full time benefits. Also the kinds of jobs that people who work 3-4 jobs often work typically have chaotic schedules that aren't set well in advance, meaning that they inevitably come into conflict creating stress and the potential to be fired for not being able to show up at one of them.
- tdeck 5y ago
  Realize I meant to type "employers" here.