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That's our team with Jira. It doesn't make sense to update tickets when all the work is done in Github. You basically have to duplicate work. I've been tryin

by dham 5y ago

That's our team with Jira. It doesn't make sense to update tickets when all the work is done in Github. You basically have to duplicate work. I've been trying to push Zenhub for years.

orliesaurus 5y ago
Zenhub is amazing, unfortunately some people don't use Github in our org - but I try to use Zenhub every time I can!
irskep 5y ago
I work at Asana and we just published our open source GitHub integration. GitHub PRs and comments are mapped directly to Asana tasks. We use it internally and I love it. If "Monday/Trello alternative with GitHub integration" is what you're looking for, it might work for you. But I admit it does take some setup, and it would be nice if it were built directly into the product. https://github.com/asana/SGTM https://github.com/asana/SGTM
ljm 5y ago
I worked at one place where we tried to break out of Jira, at least for the internal team. We tried all sorts of things but it all went back to Jira in the end. Jira is better when you have control over your workflow, it fucking sucks when you don't have permissions to tweak for your team. I still hate using it but it is probably the only tool that isn't, in itself, opinionated. Chances are if you hate Jira at work, you're really hating the people who administrate it. As for other tools, the hatred is outsourced.
- monkeybutton 5y ago
  Where I work, Jira workflows are owned by a "scrum master" whose job appears to alternate between creating superfluous processes for every new problem encountered, and, optimizing the overwhelming large number of processes slowing everyone down.
  - sirsinsalot 5y ago
    Then they are a terrible scrum master. A good one would listen to these sorts of issues and remove as much nonsense as possible to create the bare minimum level of process that Gets The Job Done
    - ljm 5y ago
      I was mentored by a few scrum masters who put their whole career on this. They wanted us to succeed and the success would put them out of the job, or send them to another team. To my mind, a good scrum master is a good leader.
    - felipellrocha 5y ago
      > Then they are a terrible scrum master. Ah, yes. The well-known moving of the goalpost only scrum fans are capable of. Where scrum is simultaneously the solution to everything, and also never "done correctly."
      - sirsinsalot 5y ago
        Not quite. I did go on to define the terrible.

by dham 5y ago

That's our team with Jira. It doesn't make sense to update tickets when all the work is done in Github. You basically have to duplicate work. I've been trying to push Zenhub for years.

orliesaurus 5y ago

Zenhub is amazing, unfortunately some people don't use Github in our org - but I try to use Zenhub every time I can!

irskep 5y ago

I work at Asana and we just published our open source GitHub integration. GitHub PRs and comments are mapped directly to Asana tasks. We use it internally and I love it. If "Monday/Trello alternative with GitHub integration" is what you're looking for, it might work for you. But I admit it does take some setup, and it would be nice if it were built directly into the product. https://github.com/asana/SGTM https://github.com/asana/SGTM

ljm 5y ago

I worked at one place where we tried to break out of Jira, at least for the internal team. We tried all sorts of things but it all went back to Jira in the end. Jira is better when you have control over your workflow, it fucking sucks when you don't have permissions to tweak for your team. I still hate using it but it is probably the only tool that isn't, in itself, opinionated. Chances are if you hate Jira at work, you're really hating the people who administrate it. As for other tools, the hatred is outsourced.

monkeybutton 5y ago
Where I work, Jira workflows are owned by a "scrum master" whose job appears to alternate between creating superfluous processes for every new problem encountered, and, optimizing the overwhelming large number of processes slowing everyone down.
- sirsinsalot 5y ago
  Then they are a terrible scrum master. A good one would listen to these sorts of issues and remove as much nonsense as possible to create the bare minimum level of process that Gets The Job Done
  - ljm 5y ago
    I was mentored by a few scrum masters who put their whole career on this. They wanted us to succeed and the success would put them out of the job, or send them to another team. To my mind, a good scrum master is a good leader.
  - felipellrocha 5y ago
    > Then they are a terrible scrum master. Ah, yes. The well-known moving of the goalpost only scrum fans are capable of. Where scrum is simultaneously the solution to everything, and also never "done correctly."
    - sirsinsalot 5y ago
      Not quite. I did go on to define the terrible.