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No one is complaining and no one said "haters", these are things you hallucinated. I'm not defending bitcoin, I'm just pointing out that you have huge misunder

No one is complaining and no one said "haters", these are things you hallucinated. I'm not defending bitcoin, I'm just pointing out that you have huge misunderstanding about how it and cryptocurrency works in general even though these things have been explained to you over and over. Bitcoin's electricity use it because of its sustained price. If the miners could not consistently sell for high prices the overall electricity use would go down. Price/electricity usage going up or down does not affect throughput over the long term. Bitcoin's throughput is from being artificially crippled to sell a second layer. If the maximum block size was raised, it would have more throughput. The max block size does not change the amount of electricity used from the block reward. The same way that you would not measure your internet connection on mb per kw/hr since the energy used by 10mbs service is going to be the same as 1000gbs service. The two things are barely correlated. Energy per transaction is barely correlated. I know it is simple and easy to look at two numbers and pretend they depend on each other, but that isn't the dynamic here, which is why everything you are saying is nonsense.

arcticbull 5y ago
> No one is complaining and no one said "haters", these are things you hallucinated. > ... which is why everything you are saying is nonsense. You're being rude again. Once again this is against the site terms. I'm happy to engage in any civil conversation with you that doesn't involve name-calling, as I'm sure you've seen a number of times. This thread, however is closed.
- CyberDildonics 5y ago
  No one is being rude to you. If you don't want someone to mention that you made up something they didn't say, then don't do that. If you say the same things over and over that have been explained to you to be false, don't be surprised if that gets brought up. If you can confront what I'm saying with something true, feel free.
  - arcticbull 5y ago
    > No one is being rude to you. You may wanna chat with your mother for a second opinion ;) > No one is complaining and no one said "haters", these are things you hallucinated. I didn't say you said 'haters' that's a stylized/flourished way of saying an opposing viewpoint. That's why it's in quotes. If anything it was self-deprecating/deferential with respect to my biases. Jumping in with "that's not how logic works" is certainly a valid thing to call out as whining or complaining because again it's not particularly civil. Off the basis of your misinterpretation you once again accuse your counter-party of 'hallucinating.' As I said this thread is over and should in the future you decide to have a civil conversation I'll happily engage.
    - CyberDildonics 5y ago
      You said it makes sense to put something in terms of a ratio even though they are uncorrelated except for a binary neccesity. That's like saying movies need sound and movies make money so let's measure movies by volume to dollars. It is literally broken logic. You seem happy to engage on how something is being said, but not so much on what is being said.
      - arcticbull 5y ago
        > You seem happy to engage on how something is being said, but not so much on what is being said. Of course, because I'm here to have an interesting conversation about an idea on its own merits, not be accused of hallucinating when you misinterpret something I've said. If you stop attacking the speaker, assumed some good faith, and have a civil conversation I suspect you'd have a better time. Normally I have much more tolerance for shenanigans but you've demonstrated a pattern in our interactions.
        CyberDildonics 5y ago
        I think if you had something of substance to say backing up what you originally said, you would have said it already instead of constantly calling yourself a victim as a diversion.

arcticbull 5y ago

> No one is complaining and no one said "haters", these are things you hallucinated. > ... which is why everything you are saying is nonsense. You're being rude again. Once again this is against the site terms. I'm happy to engage in any civil conversation with you that doesn't involve name-calling, as I'm sure you've seen a number of times. This thread, however is closed.

CyberDildonics 5y ago
No one is being rude to you. If you don't want someone to mention that you made up something they didn't say, then don't do that. If you say the same things over and over that have been explained to you to be false, don't be surprised if that gets brought up. If you can confront what I'm saying with something true, feel free.
- arcticbull 5y ago
  > No one is being rude to you. You may wanna chat with your mother for a second opinion ;) > No one is complaining and no one said "haters", these are things you hallucinated. I didn't say you said 'haters' that's a stylized/flourished way of saying an opposing viewpoint. That's why it's in quotes. If anything it was self-deprecating/deferential with respect to my biases. Jumping in with "that's not how logic works" is certainly a valid thing to call out as whining or complaining because again it's not particularly civil. Off the basis of your misinterpretation you once again accuse your counter-party of 'hallucinating.' As I said this thread is over and should in the future you decide to have a civil conversation I'll happily engage.
  - CyberDildonics 5y ago
    You said it makes sense to put something in terms of a ratio even though they are uncorrelated except for a binary neccesity. That's like saying movies need sound and movies make money so let's measure movies by volume to dollars. It is literally broken logic. You seem happy to engage on how something is being said, but not so much on what is being said.
    - arcticbull 5y ago
      > You seem happy to engage on how something is being said, but not so much on what is being said. Of course, because I'm here to have an interesting conversation about an idea on its own merits, not be accused of hallucinating when you misinterpret something I've said. If you stop attacking the speaker, assumed some good faith, and have a civil conversation I suspect you'd have a better time. Normally I have much more tolerance for shenanigans but you've demonstrated a pattern in our interactions.
      - CyberDildonics 5y ago
        I think if you had something of substance to say backing up what you originally said, you would have said it already instead of constantly calling yourself a victim as a diversion.