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AMD's last 12nm GPUs were the Radeon 7, Vega 56 and Vega 64, which were all pretty much flops. The rx580, their preceding model did quite well for a few years a
by Macha 6y ago
AMD's last 12nm GPUs were the Radeon 7, Vega 56 and Vega 64, which were all pretty much flops. The rx580, their preceding model did quite well for a few years as a last gen budget model.
To my understanding, the radeon 7 and vega were expensive chips to produce. All of them used HBM, which contributed to this, and it's not clear how easy it would be to make a non-HBM variant. Would customers accept them if they needed the same MSRP as the 6xxx GPUs?
So if they were to relaunch and old GPU I think the rx 580/590 at $200 would do. In this climate, $200 for a 1080p medium GPU would probably sell.
- dragontamer 6y agoRadeon VII was 7nm. Re-releasing the Vega cards would be excellent for ROCm programmers. AMD needs to do something to get beginner programmers onto their system cheaply. Radeon VII / Radeon VII Pro / MI25 seem like the cheapest option for cards still in production. Vega 56 / 64 still work if you can Ebay a used-card.
- jedbrown 6y agoRadeon VII has comparable memory bandwidth to an RTX 3090 (or V100) and 7x the double precision performance of RTX 3090 for a quarter the cost. It has almost double the memory bandwidth of RX 6800 and 3x the double precision performance at half the price. It would be a compelling card today if it hadn't been EOL'd almost two years ago.
- dragontamer 6y agoRadeon VII isn't really EOL'd. Its now called Radeon VII Pro and worth $2000. Or (EDIT: MI50: the MI25 is Vega64 IIRC). As long as AMD is selling those cards out at the higher price, there's no reason for the $700 price point to come back...
- my123 6y agoIt was a stopgap product that wasn't really profitable to reduce the gaming performance gap between NV and AMD. Its marketing wasn't that much targeted towards compute either. And as soon as they had cards with better gaming perf out, it outlived its usefulness in the AMD product matrix. Nvidia has the Titan V as a prosumer card with HBM2, 1/2 FP64 and all for $3k, but that seems to be out of stock nowadays too...
- jedbrown 6y agoAgreed that it was EOL'd because it was priced too low, though the Pro also lifted the double precision throttle (3.5 TF to 6.5 TF) and added Infinity Fabric.