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I've done a side by side with my Ryzen 3700x compiling a Go project. 6 seconds on the Ryzen, vs 9 seconds on the M1 air. `time go build -a`, so not very scien
by omegabravo 5y ago
I've done a side by side with my Ryzen 3700x compiling a Go project.
6 seconds on the Ryzen, vs 9 seconds on the M1 air.
`time go build -a`, so not very scientific. Could be attributed to the multicore performance of the Ryzen.
Starting applications on the M1 seems to have significant delays too, but I'm not sure if that's a Mac OSX thing. Overall it's very impressive, I just don't see the same lunch eating performance as everyone else.
The battery life and lack of fans is wonderful.
edit: Updated with the arm build on OSX. 16s -> 9 seconds.
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- ideamotor 5y agoI find M1 optimized apps load quickly while others vary. But what really varies is website load times. Sometimes instant, sometimes delayed. All this said, there really is no comparison. I don’t even think about battery for the M1, I leave the charger at home, and it’s 100% cool and silent. It’s a giant leap for portable creative computing.
- yaktubi 5y agoI’d like to point out that compiling stuff is usually disk/io intensive. Could this not just be that the Apple machine has a faster hard drive/memory?
- vetinari 5y agoIt doesn't. It has the same 4 lanes, PCIe 3.0 flash as everyone else.
- monocasa 5y agoThey have an extremely heavily integrated flash controller. Part of it is what they bought from Annobit.
- vetinari 5y agoI know, but the flash controller isn't the slow part (usually ;) ).
- monocasa 5y agoIt does for real world tasks, rather than benchmarks. The FTL plays a big part in real world, small access latency.
- vetinari 5y agoWe still don't know how good is the FTL in the Apple controller; all the devices are still too new and haven't been dragged through the coal as all the other controllers. It is still in the "easy job" part of it's lifecycle, with brand new flash cells. However, to quote @Dylan16807 from similar discussion few weeks ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26118415 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26118415): > The analog parts are the slow parts.
- monocasa 5y agoThey've been using custom controllers for over a decade. And the Annobit IP includes the analog parts as a large piece of their value add.
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- vetinari 5y agoWe are getting too deep into irrelevant things. We don't know how much of Anobit IP was used in M1 macs; they may own it, but they might not use it all. They purchase their NAND and it may be not compatible with the current gen, just like when it was not compatible with Samsung's V-NAND/3D TLC. In practice, the I/O performance of M1-based Macs is comparable to random PCIE 3.0 NVMe drive. (I'm typing this comment on M1 MBP, I'm well aware how it performs).
- markandrewj 5y agoPCIe 4.0 is the current standard.
- cbsmith 5y ago> Starting applications on the M1 seems to have significant delays too, but I'm not sure if that's a Mac OSX thing. That's a Mac OSX thing. It's verifying the apps. https://appletoolbox.com/why-is-macos-catalina-verifying-applications-before-i-can-open-them/ https://appletoolbox.com/why-is-macos-catalina-verifying-app...
- kemayo 5y agoIf it's Intel-compiled apps, it's also that Rosetta is translating them to run on M1 when they're first run, as I understand it. Both of these are first-time launch issues, so comparing launch times on the second launch is probably more reasonable.
- cbsmith 5y agoGood point. I'm really surprised they don't translate during installation (ahead of time).
- coder543 5y ago> `time go build -a`, so not very scientific. A tool I have enjoyed using to make these measurements more accurate is hyperfine[0]. In general, the 3700X beating the M1 should be the expected result... it has double the number of high performance cores, several times as much TDP, and access to way more RAM and faster SSDs. The fact that the M1 is able to be neck and neck with the 3700X is impressive, and the M1 definitely can achieve some unlikely victories. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the M1X (or M2, whatever they label it). [0]: https://github.com/sharkdp/hyperfine https://github.com/sharkdp/hyperfine
- omegabravo 5y agoupdate: time GOARCH=amd GOOS=linux go build -a 6s for the M1 too!