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> Nit: Fish Shell is a bit redundant, as Fish stands for "Friendly Interactive Shell". Isn't this a common trope with software e.g. "WINE is not an emulator" o

by s_dev 5y ago

> Nit: Fish Shell is a bit redundant, as Fish stands for "Friendly Interactive Shell". Isn't this a common trope with software e.g. "WINE is not an emulator" or people saying "ATM Machine".

cnity 5y ago
Your first example is a recursive acronym (actually a backronym in this case), and is deliberate. That's the trope. Redundancy is usually just incorrect but common use of natural language. Edit: I'm wrong about WINE being a backronym, but it is a recursive acronym.
- cedilla 5y ago
  > Redundancy is usually just incorrect How is it incorrect?
  - cnity 5y ago
    Perhaps a weaker way of putting it is that it is colloquial, but not proper form.
    - afarrell 5y ago
      > not proper form Which is annoying to those who value form more than function.
      - cnity 5y ago
        Sure. I don't have an opinion one way or another and almost certainly "misuse" acronyms.
toxik 5y ago
RAM memory DVD disc LCD display We like our nouns to be general, and rather turn the acronym into an adjective. It makes good sense too: PROM memory, BluRay disc, OLED display show their connections
cedilla 5y ago
It is, and "RAS syndrome" (redundant acronym syndrome syndrome) should be encouraged, not avoided. "PIN number" is easier and faster to understand. Probably better understood than "PI number" or the expanded form. And in this case, a link just named "fish" would have been fairly ambiguous.