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I did myself a favour, and instead of learning a new shell read through grymoire's POSIX shell tutorial: https://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sh.html https://www.grymo

by mehdix 5y ago

I did myself a favour, and instead of learning a new shell read through grymoire's POSIX shell tutorial: https://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sh.html https://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sh.html.

dividedbyzero 5y ago
I'm a fish user for over 10 years now; for me a big part of the appeal of fish was (and still is) that I could get a much better quality of life without having to train myself to wizard-level with the less ergonomic but ubiquitous bash. I'm sure any black belt bash wizard will leave me in the dust on every metric, but that's fine, I don't need my shell environment to be super optimized for maximum effectiveness, it just has to be good enough to do my work and get out of my way. Fish does that very well for me.
- smoldesu 5y ago
  +1 for this. Fish is kinda like the Emacs of terminal editors in my mind: it's more dependent on keybindings than it is command invocations.
- superasn 5y ago
  I definitely agree with you, it's just not worth struggling with something you don't like. For me this was vim. After struggling for many years with this ancient and difficult text editor peddled as the holy grail of productivity one day i just said fuck it and switched to a more sane text editor called nano. My life became instantly better and I've never looked back. I really wish I made the switch earlier instead of suffering through the never ending annoyance of vim because i at the time I thought i was still learning it and one day it will all be worth it.
- mehdix 5y ago
  I'm glad that you are happy with your setup. Every one of us is so special that there could be no one size fits all solution. The reason I started going back to bash and to some extent POSIX shell is a simple question which I nowadays ask myself: do I know why I am using this? or: do I _really_ need this? When I lack a strong reason for picking up something, I drop it, and when I can live without learning a new tool, I do it.

by mehdix 5y ago

I did myself a favour, and instead of learning a new shell read through grymoire's POSIX shell tutorial: https://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sh.html https://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sh.html.

dividedbyzero 5y ago

I'm a fish user for over 10 years now; for me a big part of the appeal of fish was (and still is) that I could get a much better quality of life without having to train myself to wizard-level with the less ergonomic but ubiquitous bash. I'm sure any black belt bash wizard will leave me in the dust on every metric, but that's fine, I don't need my shell environment to be super optimized for maximum effectiveness, it just has to be good enough to do my work and get out of my way. Fish does that very well for me.

smoldesu 5y ago
+1 for this. Fish is kinda like the Emacs of terminal editors in my mind: it's more dependent on keybindings than it is command invocations.
superasn 5y ago
I definitely agree with you, it's just not worth struggling with something you don't like. For me this was vim. After struggling for many years with this ancient and difficult text editor peddled as the holy grail of productivity one day i just said fuck it and switched to a more sane text editor called nano. My life became instantly better and I've never looked back. I really wish I made the switch earlier instead of suffering through the never ending annoyance of vim because i at the time I thought i was still learning it and one day it will all be worth it.
mehdix 5y ago
I'm glad that you are happy with your setup. Every one of us is so special that there could be no one size fits all solution. The reason I started going back to bash and to some extent POSIX shell is a simple question which I nowadays ask myself: do I know why I am using this? or: do I _really_ need this? When I lack a strong reason for picking up something, I drop it, and when I can live without learning a new tool, I do it.