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My 16 inch pro Intel is plenty fast - for the first 45 seconds before thermal throttling kicks in. I have a feeling the M1 is faster because it can actually do

by nikanj 5y ago

My 16 inch pro Intel is plenty fast - for the first 45 seconds before thermal throttling kicks in. I have a feeling the M1 is faster because it can actually do work for more than just the briefest bursts

bjoli 5y ago
Apples intel MBP thermals are pretty abysmal wrt noise. My off brand 7th gen i7 sounds about the same as my colleagues similarly species MBP, but never throttles. There were even people saying they deliberately sabotaged their intel thermals to make the up and coming M1 look better.
- gjsman-1000 5y ago
  Those conspiracy theories were never confirmed. Linus thought the MacBook Air Early 2020 model’s cooling was clearly designed for an M1, but then the M1 launched without a fan at all.
- fomine3 5y ago
  I don't believe the conspiracy, but as a result, bad thermal designs works as great advertisement for M1.
post_break 5y ago
The problem I ran into the other day, had an app crash taking 50% of cpu. I was on the couch for hours on battery. Only noticed when my battery life was at 60% when normally it would be at 85%. My intel machine would have alerted me by burning my legs and trying to create lift with the fans.
- geerlingguy 5y ago
  Ha, speaking of burning legs, I was doing some video editing in FCPX last night, and I had to keep changing positions trying to optimize for not burning my legs too badly and not blocking the air flow through the vents on the bottom/sides causing even more throttling.
  - hinkley 5y ago
    Bamboo cutting boards make great, cheap lap desks.
  - MAGZine 5y ago
    I was sitting cross legged during a long civ session and using my left hand to balance part of my MBP up. It wasn't until the next day that I discovered a painful red spot on my hand. That was a few months ago. While the spoot is no longer painful, it is still there today. The macbook slowly cooked a portion of my hand. The thermals on those old machines are just terrible, and I have evidence of it :-)
deergomoo 5y ago
The heat and noise was what led me to sell my 16" MBP in favour of a 13" Air. I was working from home the whole time I owned it and my partner could often hear it from a different room. No idea how anyone works in an office with one of those things without irritating the hell out of their coworkers.
- yurishimo 5y ago
  Most likely because everyone already wears headphones to isolate themselves. There is outside traffic noise and aircon to compete with, as well as general drone of conversations. It's only really an issue in environments that are already quiet.
  - wildrhythms 5y ago
    I can assure you the 16-inch Intel MBP is loud enough to draw attention in any open-air office space. Pre-COVID WFH life, I would have to close out my IDE, browser tabs, Photoshop, everything when I had to go into a meeting room because it was embarrassing to hear that laptop whirr its fans. Now I have an M1 for personal use, no fan, heat issues gone. Can't wait to ditch the 16-inch Intel for work, I will accept the smaller screen size.

by nikanj 5y ago

bjoli 5y ago

Apples intel MBP thermals are pretty abysmal wrt noise. My off brand 7th gen i7 sounds about the same as my colleagues similarly species MBP, but never throttles. There were even people saying they deliberately sabotaged their intel thermals to make the up and coming M1 look better.

gjsman-1000 5y ago
Those conspiracy theories were never confirmed. Linus thought the MacBook Air Early 2020 model’s cooling was clearly designed for an M1, but then the M1 launched without a fan at all.
fomine3 5y ago
I don't believe the conspiracy, but as a result, bad thermal designs works as great advertisement for M1.

post_break 5y ago

The problem I ran into the other day, had an app crash taking 50% of cpu. I was on the couch for hours on battery. Only noticed when my battery life was at 60% when normally it would be at 85%. My intel machine would have alerted me by burning my legs and trying to create lift with the fans.

geerlingguy 5y ago
Ha, speaking of burning legs, I was doing some video editing in FCPX last night, and I had to keep changing positions trying to optimize for not burning my legs too badly and not blocking the air flow through the vents on the bottom/sides causing even more throttling.
- hinkley 5y ago
  Bamboo cutting boards make great, cheap lap desks.
- MAGZine 5y ago
  I was sitting cross legged during a long civ session and using my left hand to balance part of my MBP up. It wasn't until the next day that I discovered a painful red spot on my hand. That was a few months ago. While the spoot is no longer painful, it is still there today. The macbook slowly cooked a portion of my hand. The thermals on those old machines are just terrible, and I have evidence of it :-)

deergomoo 5y ago

The heat and noise was what led me to sell my 16" MBP in favour of a 13" Air. I was working from home the whole time I owned it and my partner could often hear it from a different room. No idea how anyone works in an office with one of those things without irritating the hell out of their coworkers.

yurishimo 5y ago
Most likely because everyone already wears headphones to isolate themselves. There is outside traffic noise and aircon to compete with, as well as general drone of conversations. It's only really an issue in environments that are already quiet.
- wildrhythms 5y ago
  I can assure you the 16-inch Intel MBP is loud enough to draw attention in any open-air office space. Pre-COVID WFH life, I would have to close out my IDE, browser tabs, Photoshop, everything when I had to go into a meeting room because it was embarrassing to hear that laptop whirr its fans. Now I have an M1 for personal use, no fan, heat issues gone. Can't wait to ditch the 16-inch Intel for work, I will accept the smaller screen size.