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Then you get someone who uses a tab size of 2 spaces and this allows them for a longer line than you with your 4 or 8 spaces-sized tab. And all alignments are w

by j1elo 5y ago

Then you get someone who uses a tab size of 2 spaces and this allows them for a longer line than you with your 4 or 8 spaces-sized tab. And all alignments are wrong (you know, "indent with tabs, but align with spaces" but then people are not perfect and things end up mix-and-matched) because everything is calculated to fit _their_ tab size and nothing else. Besides, everything looks horribly indented when looking at the code in Github, which renders huge and ugly 8 spaced-tabs, so lines with just a couple tabs already tend to travel to the right and disappear when using a two-column display :-( This kind of things are what drove me from using tabs, to preferring and LOVING an already strongly opinionated tool like Prettier.js. Just apply the defaults, no more bikeshedding discussions.

withinboredom 5y ago
We use tabs at work. I haven't ever had any alignment issues or nasty diffs. Some people work with "two spaces" and some people with "four spaces". The rules of alignment have to make sense, you don't just align wherever you want. There's a style guide of when to align and when not to align (but the IDE and tooling does it all for you) and it all comes out quite beautiful no matter how you have your tab chars to display.
gsich 5y ago
I don't care how it looks on other computers. This is a problem of the user of that other computer.
- _pgon 5y ago
  So you don't care how readable your code is?
  - gsich 5y ago
    It's readable. If you set your tabs to width 0 or 10 it's not my problem. And not a readability problem on my part.
brigandish 5y ago
There’s always the CSS tab-size property[1] if you don’t like the default width (and who would, it’s huge!) [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/tab-size https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/tab-size
orangepanda 5y ago
> And all alignments are wrong (you know, "indent with tabs, but align with spaces" but then people are not perfect and things end up mix-and-matched) because everything is calculated to fit _their_ tab size and nothing else With testing and code auto formatting pipelines already in place, this isnt a problem

by j1elo 5y ago

withinboredom 5y ago

We use tabs at work. I haven't ever had any alignment issues or nasty diffs. Some people work with "two spaces" and some people with "four spaces". The rules of alignment have to make sense, you don't just align wherever you want. There's a style guide of when to align and when not to align (but the IDE and tooling does it all for you) and it all comes out quite beautiful no matter how you have your tab chars to display.

gsich 5y ago

I don't care how it looks on other computers. This is a problem of the user of that other computer.

_pgon 5y ago
So you don't care how readable your code is?
- gsich 5y ago
  It's readable. If you set your tabs to width 0 or 10 it's not my problem. And not a readability problem on my part.

brigandish 5y ago

There’s always the CSS tab-size property[1] if you don’t like the default width (and who would, it’s huge!) [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/tab-size https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/tab-size

orangepanda 5y ago

> And all alignments are wrong (you know, "indent with tabs, but align with spaces" but then people are not perfect and things end up mix-and-matched) because everything is calculated to fit _their_ tab size and nothing else With testing and code auto formatting pipelines already in place, this isnt a problem