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Sweden's early success with their 'herd immunity' experiment was short lived. They failed to actually achieve 'herd immunity' and did not avoid the eventual vi

by jussij 5y ago

Sweden's early success with their 'herd immunity' experiment was short lived. They failed to actually achieve 'herd immunity' and did not avoid the eventual virus death toll: https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/sweden-crisis-worsens-after-its-antilockdown-stance-proven-a-failure/news-story/de444b198eb996a3c9af469d72089dfe https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/sweden-cris... By comparison Finland, it's neighbor took a much stricter approach and never reached the same level of death. Finland: 931 deaths at 168 per million with a 1.0% death rate. https://epidemic-stats.com/coronavirus/finland https://epidemic-stats.com/coronavirus/finland Sweden: 14275 deaths at 1406 per million with a 1.4% death rate. https://epidemic-stats.com/coronavirus/sweden https://epidemic-stats.com/coronavirus/sweden

sethammons 5y ago
Can we then talk about the economic disruption felt by each respectively compared to the 0.4% difference in death rate? I don’t have insights into either county.
- jussij 5y ago
  Here are the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) figures for these two countries: Sweden: https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/gdp-growth-annual https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/gdp-growth-annual Finland: https://tradingeconomics.com/finland/gdp-growth-annual https://tradingeconomics.com/finland/gdp-growth-annual Looking at those charts they show very similar economic outcomes for the two countries. Of the last 4 COVID effected quarters Finland won two and Sweden won two. And Sweden actually felt the highest quarterly contraction at -7.7% compare to the -6.1% for Finland.
- jussij 5y ago
  That 0.4% difference in death rate is measuring survivability as it records the chance of dying from the virus. That 0.4% difference suggests Finland's health system was better than Sweden's at handling the virus, as your chances of dying were much less. When it comes to actual deaths Finland was doing over 830% better (i.e. 168 per million compared to 1406 per million) than Sweden. Edit: Fixed my bad math. My 90% better figure was out by a factor close to 100.
  - raphaelj 5y ago
    The more cases you have, the more overwhelm your testing system is. The difference in death rate is most probably due to the fact that Finland was testing more positive cases (relatively) to Sweden.
- me_me_me 5y ago
  Note it death rate of infected, if you have less infected the death rate should be unaffected as long as you have enough resources to treat everyone equally well.

by jussij 5y ago

sethammons 5y ago

Can we then talk about the economic disruption felt by each respectively compared to the 0.4% difference in death rate? I don’t have insights into either county.

jussij 5y ago
Here are the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) figures for these two countries: Sweden: https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/gdp-growth-annual https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/gdp-growth-annual Finland: https://tradingeconomics.com/finland/gdp-growth-annual https://tradingeconomics.com/finland/gdp-growth-annual Looking at those charts they show very similar economic outcomes for the two countries. Of the last 4 COVID effected quarters Finland won two and Sweden won two. And Sweden actually felt the highest quarterly contraction at -7.7% compare to the -6.1% for Finland.
jussij 5y ago
That 0.4% difference in death rate is measuring survivability as it records the chance of dying from the virus. That 0.4% difference suggests Finland's health system was better than Sweden's at handling the virus, as your chances of dying were much less. When it comes to actual deaths Finland was doing over 830% better (i.e. 168 per million compared to 1406 per million) than Sweden. Edit: Fixed my bad math. My 90% better figure was out by a factor close to 100.
- raphaelj 5y ago
  The more cases you have, the more overwhelm your testing system is. The difference in death rate is most probably due to the fact that Finland was testing more positive cases (relatively) to Sweden.
me_me_me 5y ago
Note it death rate of infected, if you have less infected the death rate should be unaffected as long as you have enough resources to treat everyone equally well.