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Can you point to an example of Epic doing that from an Apple-owned page (meaning, specifically, not from the app that Epic owns)? You're moving the goal posts

Can you point to an example of Epic doing that from an Apple-owned page (meaning, specifically, not from the app that Epic owns)? You're moving the goal posts further away from this example making sense.

ntr-- 5y ago
I think it's a bit disingenuous to imply that the example in question^1 is less extreme than Amazon allowing sellers to directly link to discounted options directly on their listings. The app in question was built, packaged, distributed, installed and runs on Apple funded SDKs after all. 1. https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/epic-direct-pay-apple-app-store-2045x979-730033169.png https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/epic-direct-pay-apple-app-stor...
- void_mint 5y ago
  The source of the app is owned and maintained by Epic. The source of an Amazon seller page is made through Amazon's portal.
  - enos_feedler 5y ago
    Its splitting hairs to break this down into who compiled the code. The “source” of both experiences is maintained by the developer/seller. In one case it’s some configuration and the other case it’s Apple platform bitcode
    - void_mint 5y ago
      > Its splitting hairs to break this down into who compiled the code. It's not. The difference between building your store and getting a booth in someone else's.
      - enos_feedler 5y ago
        This makes no sense. Both the app store and amazon is someone elses store wrt Fortnite
        void_mint 5y ago
        https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/epic-direct-pay-apple-app-store-2045x979-730033169.png https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/epic-direct-pay-apple-app-stor... Show me the app store in this image?
      - ntr-- 5y ago
        To extend your simile, in this case Epic appears to have accepted a booth in a marketplace where there is significant foot traffic, easy access and well tested distribution channels. They are quite content selling their wares there yet do not want to pay the asking price and are actively telling people to go to their own marketplace on the other side of town. Doesn't sound like a vendor I would want in my market either.
        void_mint 5y ago
        > in this case Epic appears to have accepted a booth in a marketplace where there is significant foot traffic, easy access and well tested distribution channels. No, and again, these moving goal posts make this conversation more and more meaningless. Epic wants to sell their currency outside of the app store. They're not allowed to do so by Apple's TOS. This is the same as Amazon saying a website cannot sell to users on the Seller's personal site if the buyer owns an Amazon account. It's just monopoly garbage. If it were possible to buy from _either_ the App Store or Epic's store, Epic would certainly ablige and just include a 30% upcharge. Of course, nobody would use it (as has been proven over and over again), but they would absolutely include it.

ntr-- 5y ago

I think it's a bit disingenuous to imply that the example in question^1 is less extreme than Amazon allowing sellers to directly link to discounted options directly on their listings. The app in question was built, packaged, distributed, installed and runs on Apple funded SDKs after all. 1. https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/epic-direct-pay-apple-app-store-2045x979-730033169.png https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/epic-direct-pay-apple-app-stor...

void_mint 5y ago
The source of the app is owned and maintained by Epic. The source of an Amazon seller page is made through Amazon's portal.
- enos_feedler 5y ago
  Its splitting hairs to break this down into who compiled the code. The “source” of both experiences is maintained by the developer/seller. In one case it’s some configuration and the other case it’s Apple platform bitcode
  - void_mint 5y ago
    > Its splitting hairs to break this down into who compiled the code. It's not. The difference between building your store and getting a booth in someone else's.
    - enos_feedler 5y ago
      This makes no sense. Both the app store and amazon is someone elses store wrt Fortnite
      - void_mint 5y ago
        https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/epic-direct-pay-apple-app-store-2045x979-730033169.png https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/epic-direct-pay-apple-app-stor... Show me the app store in this image?
    - ntr-- 5y ago
      To extend your simile, in this case Epic appears to have accepted a booth in a marketplace where there is significant foot traffic, easy access and well tested distribution channels. They are quite content selling their wares there yet do not want to pay the asking price and are actively telling people to go to their own marketplace on the other side of town. Doesn't sound like a vendor I would want in my market either.
      - void_mint 5y ago
        > in this case Epic appears to have accepted a booth in a marketplace where there is significant foot traffic, easy access and well tested distribution channels. No, and again, these moving goal posts make this conversation more and more meaningless. Epic wants to sell their currency outside of the app store. They're not allowed to do so by Apple's TOS. This is the same as Amazon saying a website cannot sell to users on the Seller's personal site if the buyer owns an Amazon account. It's just monopoly garbage. If it were possible to buy from _either_ the App Store or Epic's store, Epic would certainly ablige and just include a 30% upcharge. Of course, nobody would use it (as has been proven over and over again), but they would absolutely include it.