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I can't weigh in on the pros/cons of systemd because that's out of my depth. But I am somewhat fascinated by the hate it seems to endure. Like this https://su

by cerved 5y ago

I can't weigh in on the pros/cons of systemd because that's out of my depth. But I am somewhat fascinated by the hate it seems to endure. Like this https://suckless.org/sucks/systemd/ https://suckless.org/sucks/systemd/ I guess it's a bit of a watershed

Arch-TK 5y ago
For something which the authors seem intent on forcing down everyone's throat whether they want it or not (genuinely you can find quotes of Lennart claiming he wants to make it more difficult to not use systemd or that he wants to "gently push" people towards it) it's not really surprising. If their only goal was to gain adoption based on the merits of their software while not intentionally making themselves intrusive nobody would really care.
- bkor 5y ago
  > forcing down everyone's throat whether they want it or not You're being highly offensive towards these developers for no good reason. All kinds of grand claims, just because things are done on a way that you don't agree with. You've stated that systemd developers are wanting to force people to eat things. And their action is to actually force it into someone's mouth, likely requiring the person to be put into restraints to make this possible. You're being highly offensive. Systemd has existed for loads of years, yet this accusation continuous to be repeated. Aren't you aware of German libel laws? If I'd accuse you of such behaviour, wouldn't you get upset? Why say such things, things that suggest criminal behaviour, so easily? These things are repeated so often that it isn't even moderated upon. It's odd that this behaviour is tolerated.
  - cerved 5y ago
    Forcing something down everyone's throat is an hyperbole. They are not slandering systemd developers, nobody's suggesting people have to eat systemd. This is not offensive and it's not a crime, it's an opinion

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I can't weigh in on the pros/cons of systemd because that's out of my depth. But I am somewhat fascinated by the hate it seems to endure. Like this https://su

by cerved 5y ago

Arch-TK 5y ago
For something which the authors seem intent on forcing down everyone's throat whether they want it or not (genuinely you can find quotes of Lennart claiming he wants to make it more difficult to not use systemd or that he wants to "gently push" people towards it) it's not really surprising. If their only goal was to gain adoption based on the merits of their software while not intentionally making themselves intrusive nobody would really care.
- bkor 5y ago
  > forcing down everyone's throat whether they want it or not You're being highly offensive towards these developers for no good reason. All kinds of grand claims, just because things are done on a way that you don't agree with. You've stated that systemd developers are wanting to force people to eat things. And their action is to actually force it into someone's mouth, likely requiring the person to be put into restraints to make this possible. You're being highly offensive. Systemd has existed for loads of years, yet this accusation continuous to be repeated. Aren't you aware of German libel laws? If I'd accuse you of such behaviour, wouldn't you get upset? Why say such things, things that suggest criminal behaviour, so easily? These things are repeated so often that it isn't even moderated upon. It's odd that this behaviour is tolerated.
  - cerved 5y ago
    Forcing something down everyone's throat is an hyperbole. They are not slandering systemd developers, nobody's suggesting people have to eat systemd. This is not offensive and it's not a crime, it's an opinion