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Yes, that is a very sad one for me. I grew up listening to his comedy on LP, and now I have to never listen to it again because of what a terrible person he is/

Yes, that is a very sad one for me. I grew up listening to his comedy on LP, and now I have to never listen to it again because of what a terrible person he is/was. I really hate that. And c'mon. Lance Armstrong. What a let down. I do respect him for owning up to it at least at some point. That had to take... guts.

shkkmo 5y ago
It doesn't take guts to own up when you've already been caught and it doesn't make up for the peoole that were harmed by trying to keep the secret.
- geocrasher 5y ago
  Fair enough.
Uhhrrr 5y ago
You can still listen to Cosby. He is still funny. Just don't dope your dates with quaaludes.
- JasonFruit 5y ago
  But it isn't the same. Part of his act was that he presented himself as an upstanding person, and his act doesn't work if you know he was secretly terrible.
  - moron4hire 5y ago
    You know what's weird? On one hand I agree with you about not being able to listen to Bill Cosby anymore. But on other, literally every comedian is playing a character. I'm not even talking about the obvious ones like Larry the Cable Guy. Jerry Seinfeld, Louis C.K., John Mulaney. Except maybe the late Arty Lang. He was pretty up front about being a piece of shit. Reminds me of an old joke. "What's the easiest way to tell a comedian has made up a story? They start with, 'now this one really happened to me'."
    - underseacables 5y ago
      I get no respect…
  - Uhhrrr 5y ago
    His public persona had that (and he made a lot of people with soft bigotry mad with it), but in his act, he is just a guy. Giving his children chocolate cake for breakfast and helping his wife breathe during childbirth.
freetime2 5y ago
I'm still a fan of Lance. I still enjoy watching some of his classic races up Alpe d'Huez, and I still have a lot of respect for his competitiveness as a rider. Even though I know an inseparable part of those legendary performances is the EPO. I also recognize that he's not a good person. I listen to his podcast from time to time and he comes across as a total narcissist. It literally makes me cringe sometimes. He's not someone that I would wish to emulate or I would want my kids to emulate. That actually kind of makes me like him more, though. He's not just some legend. He's a real, flawed human being who also happens to have the most interesting career in all of cycling (in my opinion).
- underseacables 5y ago
  I am, and always will be, a tremendous fan of Lance. He got my fat butt off the couch and onto a bicycle, and was an incredible inspiration to me. I am very sad that he doped, but I forgive him, While it hurts, I’m glad that he came clean. Perhaps because I understand that everyone was doping then (Pantani, Ulrich, Virenque, etc) and it was an impossible situation for many of those guys.

shkkmo 5y ago

It doesn't take guts to own up when you've already been caught and it doesn't make up for the peoole that were harmed by trying to keep the secret.

geocrasher 5y ago
Fair enough.

Uhhrrr 5y ago

You can still listen to Cosby. He is still funny. Just don't dope your dates with quaaludes.

JasonFruit 5y ago
But it isn't the same. Part of his act was that he presented himself as an upstanding person, and his act doesn't work if you know he was secretly terrible.
- moron4hire 5y ago
  You know what's weird? On one hand I agree with you about not being able to listen to Bill Cosby anymore. But on other, literally every comedian is playing a character. I'm not even talking about the obvious ones like Larry the Cable Guy. Jerry Seinfeld, Louis C.K., John Mulaney. Except maybe the late Arty Lang. He was pretty up front about being a piece of shit. Reminds me of an old joke. "What's the easiest way to tell a comedian has made up a story? They start with, 'now this one really happened to me'."
  - underseacables 5y ago
    I get no respect…
- Uhhrrr 5y ago
  His public persona had that (and he made a lot of people with soft bigotry mad with it), but in his act, he is just a guy. Giving his children chocolate cake for breakfast and helping his wife breathe during childbirth.

freetime2 5y ago

I'm still a fan of Lance. I still enjoy watching some of his classic races up Alpe d'Huez, and I still have a lot of respect for his competitiveness as a rider. Even though I know an inseparable part of those legendary performances is the EPO. I also recognize that he's not a good person. I listen to his podcast from time to time and he comes across as a total narcissist. It literally makes me cringe sometimes. He's not someone that I would wish to emulate or I would want my kids to emulate. That actually kind of makes me like him more, though. He's not just some legend. He's a real, flawed human being who also happens to have the most interesting career in all of cycling (in my opinion).

underseacables 5y ago
I am, and always will be, a tremendous fan of Lance. He got my fat butt off the couch and onto a bicycle, and was an incredible inspiration to me. I am very sad that he doped, but I forgive him, While it hurts, I’m glad that he came clean. Perhaps because I understand that everyone was doping then (Pantani, Ulrich, Virenque, etc) and it was an impossible situation for many of those guys.