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I find the kind of generalization and meanness in your comment is counterproductive: and also commonly trotted out when justifying the extroversion dominance in

by sidlls 5y ago

I find the kind of generalization and meanness in your comment is counterproductive: and also commonly trotted out when justifying the extroversion dominance in organizations. Also: social anxiety and shyness are very real problems that can easily be induced by the shame, ridicule, and lack of acceptance that introversion often is accompanied by. The fact that these things are often equated with “socially inept/incompetent” is extremely problematic.

xyzelement 5y ago
No offense but it sounds like you are more interested in being offended than comprehension and evolution. My whole point is that social skills and interaction are just that - skills. You can invest in them if you are introverted or even if you have some social anxiety (as, I suspect, I do.) If someone instead insists that there's nothing for them to learn, that their "badness" with people is a badge of honor in some way, then they just justify being bad at the expense of people around them. But, I guess we can just ignore that, forego the opportunity to improve, because you find it problematic :)
- sidlls 5y ago
  You’re the one suddenly bringing up an unwillingness to learn. It’s quite telling, too, as the language you used suggests you don’t view these things as medical conditions or disabilities, but instead personal failings to overcome. Also, pointing out meanness in a comment isn’t the same as being offended: it’s quite presumptuous really.
- yesenadam 5y ago
  When you find yourself starting a comment with "No offense but", perhaps look at why you felt your comment might cause offence. Then rewrite it in a kinder and less mean way that doesn't need a disclaimer. Your comment would have come across better—as trying to help, not trying to mock—without the first and last lines, which seem to break the guidelines.
watwut 5y ago
Anxiety and shyness is not the same as introversion. Extroverts have as much anxiety and are shy too. Introverts give public speaches or perform publically. Extroverts can be also socially inept.

by sidlls 5y ago

xyzelement 5y ago

No offense but it sounds like you are more interested in being offended than comprehension and evolution. My whole point is that social skills and interaction are just that - skills. You can invest in them if you are introverted or even if you have some social anxiety (as, I suspect, I do.) If someone instead insists that there's nothing for them to learn, that their "badness" with people is a badge of honor in some way, then they just justify being bad at the expense of people around them. But, I guess we can just ignore that, forego the opportunity to improve, because you find it problematic :)

sidlls 5y ago
You’re the one suddenly bringing up an unwillingness to learn. It’s quite telling, too, as the language you used suggests you don’t view these things as medical conditions or disabilities, but instead personal failings to overcome. Also, pointing out meanness in a comment isn’t the same as being offended: it’s quite presumptuous really.
yesenadam 5y ago
When you find yourself starting a comment with "No offense but", perhaps look at why you felt your comment might cause offence. Then rewrite it in a kinder and less mean way that doesn't need a disclaimer. Your comment would have come across better—as trying to help, not trying to mock—without the first and last lines, which seem to break the guidelines.

watwut 5y ago

Anxiety and shyness is not the same as introversion. Extroverts have as much anxiety and are shy too. Introverts give public speaches or perform publically. Extroverts can be also socially inept.