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...are there really places in the US that are considered suburbs where the nearest place to get groceries is 10-15 miles away? That's appalling.

by adamjb 5y ago

other_herbert 5y ago
I think most people would call that “the middle of nowhere” or out in the boonies... or it could be a new area that is growing.. 15 miles from groceries is too far to be called a suburb
- masklinn 5y ago
  > I think most people would call that “the middle of nowhere” or out in the boonies... Not in the US. In the US "in the middle of nowhere" is grocery runs of 50+ miles. 15 miles is a "far out" suburbian hellscape e.g. https://i1.wp.com/cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1080/1*AEfVhyvwGyqDmnZcAQfIGg.png?resize=398%2C264&ssl=1 https://i1.wp.com/cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1080/1*AEfVhyv... or https://bostonglobe-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/h2N-h_4kbaMMps_4ou05IwXb6tM=/1024x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-bostonglobe.s3.amazonaws.com/public/Z4IGXQBGAII6HALMQUI2U2GARA.jpg https://bostonglobe-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/h2N-h...
dazc 5y ago
It does sound appaling but, here in the UK, my dad lives in a fairly large city and, once a week, I drive him to the largest supermarket in the area which is about 10 miles away. There are, of course, other supermarkets much closer (2 within walking distance) but they are not quite so big, have a limited choice and are situated in areas which attract a certain class of clientel (known in the UK as Chavs). For him, the inconvenience is worth it - although it does take 3 hours out of my day.
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- iso1210 5y ago
  So your dad will only shop at Sainsburys despite having an Asda on the doorstep? I don't get going to a supermarket at all. We've had groceries delivered once or twice a week from Sainsburys, Ocada, Tesco, Asda, etc for about 10 years. The concept of walking around a supermarket on a regular basis fills me with dread - all that wasted time and effort.
  - dazc 5y ago
    I agree with the wasted effort, compounded by having to navigate ailes populated with internet-order-pickers, but it keeps him happy.
masklinn 5y ago
Lots. e.g. I took a random Tucson suburb and looked for the closest grocery store: https://www.google.be/maps/dir/32.3863674,-111.0376983/Grocery+Walmart,+North+Cortaro+Road,+Tucson,+AZ,+USA/@32.3541036,-111.039729,6746m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m8!4m7!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x86d60baf3b7f7883:0x2e63416802b027e8!2m2!1d-111.0894464!2d32.3562615 https://www.google.be/maps/dir/32.3863674,-111.0376983/Groce... Apparently you can't just put a generic "grocery" as the destination, but if you search for "grocery" and check different results, you'll get 10-15mn for all of them. That's pretty standard US suburban sprawl, usually under the insanity that is euclidean zoning: entire neighbourhoods zoned exclusively for detached single-family homes, not allowing any business (no bakery, grocery store, florist, no nothing) and no multi-family dwellings.
- AlgorithmicTime 5y ago
  Ten minutes away is not ten miles away. In fact, there are multiple grocery stores within 3-4 miles of the location you chose. https://www.google.be/maps/search/grocery+store/@32.3769377,-111.0588692,8479m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m8!2m7!3m6!1sgrocery+store!2s3300+W+Desert+Bend+Loop,+Tucson,+AZ+85742!3s0x86d60ba9b1608d8f:0xb6a576b01fda13bf!4m2!1d-111.0374948!2d32.3865477 https://www.google.be/maps/search/grocery+store/@32.3769377,...

...are there really places in the US that are considered suburbs where the nearest place to get groceries is 10-15 miles away? That's appalling.

by adamjb 5y ago

...are there really places in the US that are considered suburbs where the nearest place to get groceries is 10-15 miles away? That's appalling.

other_herbert 5y ago

I think most people would call that “the middle of nowhere” or out in the boonies... or it could be a new area that is growing.. 15 miles from groceries is too far to be called a suburb

masklinn 5y ago
> I think most people would call that “the middle of nowhere” or out in the boonies... Not in the US. In the US "in the middle of nowhere" is grocery runs of 50+ miles. 15 miles is a "far out" suburbian hellscape e.g. https://i1.wp.com/cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1080/1*AEfVhyvwGyqDmnZcAQfIGg.png?resize=398%2C264&ssl=1 https://i1.wp.com/cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1080/1*AEfVhyv... or https://bostonglobe-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/h2N-h_4kbaMMps_4ou05IwXb6tM=/1024x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-bostonglobe.s3.amazonaws.com/public/Z4IGXQBGAII6HALMQUI2U2GARA.jpg https://bostonglobe-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/h2N-h...

dazc 5y ago

It does sound appaling but, here in the UK, my dad lives in a fairly large city and, once a week, I drive him to the largest supermarket in the area which is about 10 miles away. There are, of course, other supermarkets much closer (2 within walking distance) but they are not quite so big, have a limited choice and are situated in areas which attract a certain class of clientel (known in the UK as Chavs). For him, the inconvenience is worth it - although it does take 3 hours out of my day.

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iso1210 5y ago
So your dad will only shop at Sainsburys despite having an Asda on the doorstep? I don't get going to a supermarket at all. We've had groceries delivered once or twice a week from Sainsburys, Ocada, Tesco, Asda, etc for about 10 years. The concept of walking around a supermarket on a regular basis fills me with dread - all that wasted time and effort.
- dazc 5y ago
  I agree with the wasted effort, compounded by having to navigate ailes populated with internet-order-pickers, but it keeps him happy.

masklinn 5y ago

Lots. e.g. I took a random Tucson suburb and looked for the closest grocery store: https://www.google.be/maps/dir/32.3863674,-111.0376983/Grocery+Walmart,+North+Cortaro+Road,+Tucson,+AZ,+USA/@32.3541036,-111.039729,6746m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m8!4m7!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x86d60baf3b7f7883:0x2e63416802b027e8!2m2!1d-111.0894464!2d32.3562615 https://www.google.be/maps/dir/32.3863674,-111.0376983/Groce... Apparently you can't just put a generic "grocery" as the destination, but if you search for "grocery" and check different results, you'll get 10-15mn for all of them. That's pretty standard US suburban sprawl, usually under the insanity that is euclidean zoning: entire neighbourhoods zoned exclusively for detached single-family homes, not allowing any business (no bakery, grocery store, florist, no nothing) and no multi-family dwellings.

AlgorithmicTime 5y ago
Ten minutes away is not ten miles away. In fact, there are multiple grocery stores within 3-4 miles of the location you chose. https://www.google.be/maps/search/grocery+store/@32.3769377,-111.0588692,8479m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m8!2m7!3m6!1sgrocery+store!2s3300+W+Desert+Bend+Loop,+Tucson,+AZ+85742!3s0x86d60ba9b1608d8f:0xb6a576b01fda13bf!4m2!1d-111.0374948!2d32.3865477 https://www.google.be/maps/search/grocery+store/@32.3769377,...