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My experience is opposite, Linux desktop is garbage compared to Windows desktop, and I’m not talking about features or looks or anything like that, but core req

by tored 5y ago

My experience is opposite, Linux desktop is garbage compared to Windows desktop, and I’m not talking about features or looks or anything like that, but core requirements like response time, handling of rouge processes (that can freeze your desktop), login/logout, virtual memory problems, scheduling of processes, memory leaks. List goes on. I need to tinker with my Linux machine constantly. Linux is great a server, but desktop? Still a long way to go.

mrweasel 5y ago
To some extend I don't disagree. In general I feel like response time is better on Linux, but I don't have any numbers. Mostly I've given up on the desktop environments on Linux, not due to response times, but because I don't want to tinker with it, I just want to use the computer. My current home setup is just an OpenBSD machine with CWM, it manages windows and launches programs and that's all it needs to do.
eitland 5y ago
I don't know what I do wrong (i.e. right) but these things just doesn't seem to happen to me. Then again I use KDE Neon and only make to make software, browse the web and occasionally play CSGO. My biggest annoyance is how everytime I boot either my Windows partition (weeks between) or KDE partition (anytime really) there's a huge stash of upgrades waiting for me.
- tored 5y ago
  KDE is the one desktop environment I haven't experimented with enough to give a fair judgement. I need to put that next on my list. Updates on Windows is usually more annoying on Windows than on Linux because of the forced updates with reboots, in that regard Windows is more garbage than Linux.
CarelessExpert 5y ago
I guess I must be pretty lucky or something. I've been running Debian testing with Gnome on a Lenovo X1C5 for a couple of years now (it used to run Win10 but I got fed up with the forced updates) and the only time I find myself tinkering with it is when I get bored and want to change things up. Go figure.
- checkyoursudo 5y ago
  I have used the same Gentoo/i3wm setup for ... a lot of years. Probably 10 or more by now. I guess we maybe changed the way package-installer (portage) profiles worked during that time, and I sort of recall something about how repos are configured being changed. Those were each at most a command or two run as root. Otherwise, I don't really get a sense that I have had to do any tinkering other than what I specifically want to mess around with something, as you say. E.g., I changed from grub to efi-stub booting, which was fun and took a bit of work. I tried out Conky and some different status bars (cool, but not really my thing). Now, i3 is really pretty barebones. I can imagine that some desktop environments maybe require more tinkering than i3, but if so then that's not really Linux's fault, is it.
  - dumpsterdiver 5y ago
    Right. You can’t blame the horse for having a poorly fitted saddle. Unfortunately sometimes we get horse saddles that try to copy elephant saddles, and that’s when we get something like Gnome.

by tored 5y ago

mrweasel 5y ago

To some extend I don't disagree. In general I feel like response time is better on Linux, but I don't have any numbers. Mostly I've given up on the desktop environments on Linux, not due to response times, but because I don't want to tinker with it, I just want to use the computer. My current home setup is just an OpenBSD machine with CWM, it manages windows and launches programs and that's all it needs to do.

eitland 5y ago

I don't know what I do wrong (i.e. right) but these things just doesn't seem to happen to me. Then again I use KDE Neon and only make to make software, browse the web and occasionally play CSGO. My biggest annoyance is how everytime I boot either my Windows partition (weeks between) or KDE partition (anytime really) there's a huge stash of upgrades waiting for me.

tored 5y ago
KDE is the one desktop environment I haven't experimented with enough to give a fair judgement. I need to put that next on my list. Updates on Windows is usually more annoying on Windows than on Linux because of the forced updates with reboots, in that regard Windows is more garbage than Linux.

CarelessExpert 5y ago

I guess I must be pretty lucky or something. I've been running Debian testing with Gnome on a Lenovo X1C5 for a couple of years now (it used to run Win10 but I got fed up with the forced updates) and the only time I find myself tinkering with it is when I get bored and want to change things up. Go figure.

checkyoursudo 5y ago
I have used the same Gentoo/i3wm setup for ... a lot of years. Probably 10 or more by now. I guess we maybe changed the way package-installer (portage) profiles worked during that time, and I sort of recall something about how repos are configured being changed. Those were each at most a command or two run as root. Otherwise, I don't really get a sense that I have had to do any tinkering other than what I specifically want to mess around with something, as you say. E.g., I changed from grub to efi-stub booting, which was fun and took a bit of work. I tried out Conky and some different status bars (cool, but not really my thing). Now, i3 is really pretty barebones. I can imagine that some desktop environments maybe require more tinkering than i3, but if so then that's not really Linux's fault, is it.
- dumpsterdiver 5y ago
  Right. You can’t blame the horse for having a poorly fitted saddle. Unfortunately sometimes we get horse saddles that try to copy elephant saddles, and that’s when we get something like Gnome.