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> contradicting My main assertion is the stronger the push to end inequality, the more it does the opposite... the strongest pushes like Communism and Socialis

> contradicting My main assertion is the stronger the push to end inequality, the more it does the opposite... the strongest pushes like Communism and Socialism are easily viewable through historical examples - or using present examples (IE: Venezuela). Yet pushes to use "Social Democracy" to enact the changes have the same, albeit slower, effect of not working or causing horrible effects (IE: growing inequality). "here's the first line: can't eliminate disease" likewise, if you want to walk that metaphore... we are approaching a time where diseases are increasing resistant to medicine and we are making things worse by creating worse diseases (IE: MRSA and antibiotic resistant "super" strains). We work to "cure diseases", have short term successes and, ultimately, make things worse. you can look at countries like Sweden that are held up as examples of how it should be done... and see an increase in inequality across the board. "make things better" I'm all for working towards better... but sweeping changes generally don't work because of unintended consequences (IE: Globalization and higher taxes closing small businesses and hurting competition and rising prices and etc) Maybe I could be more clear... but I stand by my belief that the harder someone pushes for "equality" or "equity"... the more unequal and inequitable the results are.

DFHippie 5y ago
> likewise, if you want to walk that metaphore... we are approaching a time where diseases are increasing resistant to medicine and we are making things worse by creating worse diseases (IE: MRSA and antibiotic resistant "super" strains). We work to "cure diseases", have short term successes and, ultimately, make things worse. Antibiotic resistance is surely a problem but it doesn't indicate a general failure of medicine. On all other fronts medicine continues to improve, and even in the case of antibiotic resistance we aren't giving up. Phage therapy is a thing. New antibiotics continue to be found. We strive to prevent the mis-prescription of antibiotics in, for example, animal feed. And interestingly, the slowdown in antibiotic discovery is in part a market failure: it's hard to make back research costs with antibiotics, so the free market doesn't provide them even though we need them. It's not a good metaphor for free market fundamentalists. > I stand by my belief that the harder someone pushes for "equality" or "equity"... the more unequal and inequitable the results are. I won't argue with you further.

DFHippie 5y ago

> likewise, if you want to walk that metaphore... we are approaching a time where diseases are increasing resistant to medicine and we are making things worse by creating worse diseases (IE: MRSA and antibiotic resistant "super" strains). We work to "cure diseases", have short term successes and, ultimately, make things worse. Antibiotic resistance is surely a problem but it doesn't indicate a general failure of medicine. On all other fronts medicine continues to improve, and even in the case of antibiotic resistance we aren't giving up. Phage therapy is a thing. New antibiotics continue to be found. We strive to prevent the mis-prescription of antibiotics in, for example, animal feed. And interestingly, the slowdown in antibiotic discovery is in part a market failure: it's hard to make back research costs with antibiotics, so the free market doesn't provide them even though we need them. It's not a good metaphor for free market fundamentalists. > I stand by my belief that the harder someone pushes for "equality" or "equity"... the more unequal and inequitable the results are. I won't argue with you further.