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Ye, I'm with you. To give the benefit of doubt to the author, maybe they were thinking of "turning to software innovation" as in optimizing / longer dev cycles

Ye, I'm with you. To give the benefit of doubt to the author, maybe they were thinking of "turning to software innovation" as in optimizing / longer dev cycles that can result in less resource wastage. i.e. rather than needing the latest chip to run Electron based applications everywhere they'd spend a bit more time developing software that can run well on older chips.

katmannthree 5y ago
Had they not explicitly said hardware innovation I would have thought that as well. I hope it does lead to debloating though, when mouse config software weights in over 200MB we're long overdue for some trimming of the proverbial fat.
mrweasel 5y ago
For the integrated hardware, like IoT, cars and so on, it makes sense to attempt to reduce the amount of chips needed, and the glue the remaining bits in using software. I don't see how there's much else you can do to deal with a shortage, other than perhaps starting to remove many of the "smart" features and accept that perhaps we didn't need all of them to begin with. For computers, desktops, laptops, servers and phone, we could start focusing on more efficient software. Replacing laptops every two or three year is no longer cost effective. We start to look at 5 to 8 year lifespan for phones and laptop, meaning that developers need to focus more on efficiency. It's two different ways of dealing with rising chip prices: Use fewer chips, and use them longer. It's also a great way of shifting to greener computing.
- lupire 5y ago
  10year old laptop chips work well for the vast majority of users. The problems are in shoddy cases/integrations that fail, and lack of repairability/upgradability/planned obsolescence (even in chassis that have no thin-light excuse), both of which lead to waste
  - mofosyne 5y ago
    One possible idea is a rebate that is given back to manufactures if the device last long enough.

katmannthree 5y ago

Had they not explicitly said hardware innovation I would have thought that as well. I hope it does lead to debloating though, when mouse config software weights in over 200MB we're long overdue for some trimming of the proverbial fat.

mrweasel 5y ago

For the integrated hardware, like IoT, cars and so on, it makes sense to attempt to reduce the amount of chips needed, and the glue the remaining bits in using software. I don't see how there's much else you can do to deal with a shortage, other than perhaps starting to remove many of the "smart" features and accept that perhaps we didn't need all of them to begin with. For computers, desktops, laptops, servers and phone, we could start focusing on more efficient software. Replacing laptops every two or three year is no longer cost effective. We start to look at 5 to 8 year lifespan for phones and laptop, meaning that developers need to focus more on efficiency. It's two different ways of dealing with rising chip prices: Use fewer chips, and use them longer. It's also a great way of shifting to greener computing.

lupire 5y ago
10year old laptop chips work well for the vast majority of users. The problems are in shoddy cases/integrations that fail, and lack of repairability/upgradability/planned obsolescence (even in chassis that have no thin-light excuse), both of which lead to waste
- mofosyne 5y ago
  One possible idea is a rebate that is given back to manufactures if the device last long enough.