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Cellebrite sells their hardware to lots of non-LEO, including corporate security, law firms, private investigators and regimes that have no respect for human ri
by simfree 5y ago
Cellebrite sells their hardware to lots of non-LEO, including corporate security, law firms, private investigators and regimes that have no respect for human rights. Cellebrite's UFED hardware even shows up on eBay and other online sales platforms.
If someone has a Cellebrite, they do not necessarily have a lawful right to access. Could just be a $16/hr Pinkerton (a wholly owned subsidiary of Securitas) using UFED on a phone they stole from an employee or contractor of the organization they contract with.
- dTal 5y agoI feel like this is a key point for the entire discussion. The legality of deliberately foiling lawful investigations is debatable, but protecting yourself against wild-west malware decidedly less so. That being said - if it's all fine and dandy, I don't see why a Cellebrite-foiler couldn't be a separate app. Moxie (threatening to) piggy-back it onto Signal, purely because it's the app he controls, is a deeply user-hostile move.
- dylan604 5y ago> Cellebrite's UFED hardware even shows up on eBay and other online sales platforms. I'm surprised Cellebrite allows for this. I would have assumed that the sales contract would include a "this is a lease, not a purchase" type of wording so that "you may not sale this device to anyone" with a buy back clause provided instead.
- WrtCdEvrydy 5y agoYou'd be surprised but older generation UFEDs end up on eBay for under $1000 often. I have one at home but yeah, there's no EULA preventing you from selling something that's yours.
- dylan604 5y agoI'm not surprised that it is happening at all. Of course someone that paid a large sum of money for something that they no longer need/want will result in them trying to sell it to recoup some money. My surprise is that Cellebrite does not buy them back to keep the demand/supply artificial.