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Whenever affirmative action or an equivalent action like this is pushed, the proponents identify some activist fringe group of Asians to give the semblance of A

Whenever affirmative action or an equivalent action like this is pushed, the proponents identify some activist fringe group of Asians to give the semblance of Asian support, even though it is obvious most Asians wouldn’t support it because these actions directly discriminate against them.

rayiner 5y ago
What you described happened with Prop 16 too. Asian activists with unrepresentative views writing checks on the joint account is a thing in many areas. Matt Yglesias, Zaid Jilani, and Wesley Yang have noted this recently in the context of policing: https://www.slowboring.com/p/yang-gang https://www.slowboring.com/p/yang-gang. https://mobile.twitter.com/anilaali/status/1385843118721978368 https://mobile.twitter.com/anilaali/status/13858431187219783... (“Was working on an essay about how ‘Asian American’ is pure politicized astroturf manufactured by the activist class and non-profit industrial complex speaking to no actual ethnic constituency and she just...tweeted it out”). Asian activists stand in solidarity with other progressives on opposing policing even as a response to growing anti-Asian hate crime. Meanwhile, most Asians in the neighborhoods where they’re getting attacked support the police: https://slate.com/business/2021/04/chinatown-block-watch-karlin-chan-anti-asian-hate-new-york-city.html https://slate.com/business/2021/04/chinatown-block-watch-kar... > I’m curious how people in the block watch talk about things like defunding the police. I’ve noticed that some activists are pretty bullish on the idea of taking money away from the police and saying this really isn’t working for our community, while others very much want the protection of the police. What are those conversations like when you’re having them? > Well, actually, there are no members on the Chinatown Block Watch calling for defunding the police. > None? > We don’t get into partisan politics. We actually don’t talk about politics at all. I support community policing here. I would love to see a beat cop come back onto the job. Decades ago, there used to be a beat cop, these officers that walk around the neighborhood on foot, and they get to know all the business owners, they get to know the residents.
failwhaleshark 5y ago
In California in the early 80's, I couldn't go to an elementary school a block from my house because there were "too many" whites and Asians there already. So instead, I was bussed 90 minutes each way (3 hours per day) Hilbert curve-style all throughout San Jose in order to fulfill the whims of wishful-thinking, social engineering academics imposing their "great ideas" on public schooling. I had to wake up at 4:45 am because the nearest bus stop was also over a mile away, despite it passing within a block of my house, and the drivers refusing to let me on or off there. That was what also happened with the move to whole language reading away from phonics, which is a tried-and-true system of grapheme-phoneme mapping (and typically followed by word decoding with prefixes, suffixes, and root words), that ruined reading comprehension for several generations; this was also the impetus for the formation of the Challenger private school system. Apparently, the California Department of Education returned to phonics many years later because it was such an utter failure. The problem is these arbitrary experiments are committed-to and continued due to image and political concerns and sunk costs bias, but without any fair and complete validation that they work. What the heck was the goal of shipping talented kids around to inferior schools where more students had emotional problems, broken homes problems, anger issues, and lower performance? It's not like gifted kids are going to do better in a shittier environment. It seems more like punishment or padding metrics at the expense of students.
- rayiner 5y ago
  Dude that sucks. Did nobody think what it would do to kids learning to suffer through 3 hour commutes like that? My parents would have flipped out and moved.

rayiner 5y ago

What you described happened with Prop 16 too. Asian activists with unrepresentative views writing checks on the joint account is a thing in many areas. Matt Yglesias, Zaid Jilani, and Wesley Yang have noted this recently in the context of policing: https://www.slowboring.com/p/yang-gang https://www.slowboring.com/p/yang-gang. https://mobile.twitter.com/anilaali/status/1385843118721978368 https://mobile.twitter.com/anilaali/status/13858431187219783... (“Was working on an essay about how ‘Asian American’ is pure politicized astroturf manufactured by the activist class and non-profit industrial complex speaking to no actual ethnic constituency and she just...tweeted it out”). Asian activists stand in solidarity with other progressives on opposing policing even as a response to growing anti-Asian hate crime. Meanwhile, most Asians in the neighborhoods where they’re getting attacked support the police: https://slate.com/business/2021/04/chinatown-block-watch-karlin-chan-anti-asian-hate-new-york-city.html https://slate.com/business/2021/04/chinatown-block-watch-kar... > I’m curious how people in the block watch talk about things like defunding the police. I’ve noticed that some activists are pretty bullish on the idea of taking money away from the police and saying this really isn’t working for our community, while others very much want the protection of the police. What are those conversations like when you’re having them? > Well, actually, there are no members on the Chinatown Block Watch calling for defunding the police. > None? > We don’t get into partisan politics. We actually don’t talk about politics at all. I support community policing here. I would love to see a beat cop come back onto the job. Decades ago, there used to be a beat cop, these officers that walk around the neighborhood on foot, and they get to know all the business owners, they get to know the residents.

failwhaleshark 5y ago

In California in the early 80's, I couldn't go to an elementary school a block from my house because there were "too many" whites and Asians there already. So instead, I was bussed 90 minutes each way (3 hours per day) Hilbert curve-style all throughout San Jose in order to fulfill the whims of wishful-thinking, social engineering academics imposing their "great ideas" on public schooling. I had to wake up at 4:45 am because the nearest bus stop was also over a mile away, despite it passing within a block of my house, and the drivers refusing to let me on or off there. That was what also happened with the move to whole language reading away from phonics, which is a tried-and-true system of grapheme-phoneme mapping (and typically followed by word decoding with prefixes, suffixes, and root words), that ruined reading comprehension for several generations; this was also the impetus for the formation of the Challenger private school system. Apparently, the California Department of Education returned to phonics many years later because it was such an utter failure. The problem is these arbitrary experiments are committed-to and continued due to image and political concerns and sunk costs bias, but without any fair and complete validation that they work. What the heck was the goal of shipping talented kids around to inferior schools where more students had emotional problems, broken homes problems, anger issues, and lower performance? It's not like gifted kids are going to do better in a shittier environment. It seems more like punishment or padding metrics at the expense of students.

rayiner 5y ago
Dude that sucks. Did nobody think what it would do to kids learning to suffer through 3 hour commutes like that? My parents would have flipped out and moved.