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Israel-Palestinian conflict: False and misleading claims fact-checked

16 points by nabla9 6y ago

ErikVandeWater 6y ago
Is Hamas technically firing into Israel, or are they firing on Israeli occupied Palestine?
- LegitShady 6y ago
  They are firing from civilian areas at civilian areas, committing war crimes that you are happily attempting to minimize without doing even basic research. The answer to your question is they are firing into Israel, attempting to kill civilians with artillery rockets.
  - loceng 6y ago
    Citation needed? They asked a fair question. Also the article is re: false and misleading claims - e.g. propaganda - so how are you sure your "basic research" or even detailed research is accurate and not crafted to mislead?
  - ErikVandeWater 6y ago
    Calm down please this is HN.
- guerrilla 6y ago
  It depends on what you mean by that. Many Palestinians would consider all of Israel to be occupied Palestine. What I think what you mean to ask is if they are firing on illegal settlements. No, those are in the West Bank. They are mainly firing at Ashdod, Ashkelon, Beersheeva and Tel Aviv which are all north and east of Gaza.
  - loceng 6y ago
    Could their rockets even reach those areas even if they tried, even if the Iron Dome wasn't stopping most of them from getting through? I'm not familiar with their capability/reach.
    - candiodari 6y ago
      They are unguided munitions. They're an accelerated cannon ball and even then they don't seem to put much effort into aiming them at all. It is a futile exercise to try to hit anything with these rockets. They will occasionally hit something by pure accident.
    - Thristle 6y ago
      Rockets from Gaza already reached Jerusalem and the sorrounding area, so yeah they can.
viraptor 6y ago
As grugq keeps saying, the advancement in deepfakes will not make a huge change in fake news as long as cheapfakes (reusing images from different context) is quick and effective. This and the photos of people hoarding gas in the US seem to confirm it once more.
- pr0crastin8 6y ago
  That's a good point I hadn't heard before, perhaps it would be relatively straight forward to build tools that detect this kind of thing? E.g., as per the article, an image/video tagged as being in 'Syria' later being tagged in 'Gaza' could be flagged up for human review.

16 points by nabla9 6y ago

ErikVandeWater 6y ago

Is Hamas technically firing into Israel, or are they firing on Israeli occupied Palestine?

LegitShady 6y ago
They are firing from civilian areas at civilian areas, committing war crimes that you are happily attempting to minimize without doing even basic research. The answer to your question is they are firing into Israel, attempting to kill civilians with artillery rockets.
- loceng 6y ago
  Citation needed? They asked a fair question. Also the article is re: false and misleading claims - e.g. propaganda - so how are you sure your "basic research" or even detailed research is accurate and not crafted to mislead?
- ErikVandeWater 6y ago
  Calm down please this is HN.
guerrilla 6y ago
It depends on what you mean by that. Many Palestinians would consider all of Israel to be occupied Palestine. What I think what you mean to ask is if they are firing on illegal settlements. No, those are in the West Bank. They are mainly firing at Ashdod, Ashkelon, Beersheeva and Tel Aviv which are all north and east of Gaza.
- loceng 6y ago
  Could their rockets even reach those areas even if they tried, even if the Iron Dome wasn't stopping most of them from getting through? I'm not familiar with their capability/reach.
  - candiodari 6y ago
    They are unguided munitions. They're an accelerated cannon ball and even then they don't seem to put much effort into aiming them at all. It is a futile exercise to try to hit anything with these rockets. They will occasionally hit something by pure accident.
  - Thristle 6y ago
    Rockets from Gaza already reached Jerusalem and the sorrounding area, so yeah they can.

viraptor 6y ago

As grugq keeps saying, the advancement in deepfakes will not make a huge change in fake news as long as cheapfakes (reusing images from different context) is quick and effective. This and the photos of people hoarding gas in the US seem to confirm it once more.

pr0crastin8 6y ago
That's a good point I hadn't heard before, perhaps it would be relatively straight forward to build tools that detect this kind of thing? E.g., as per the article, an image/video tagged as being in 'Syria' later being tagged in 'Gaza' could be flagged up for human review.