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I have also stopped trying to discourage people from cargo culting facebook’s stack for their 3-person teams or even solo. If someone insists on 10x the complex

I have also stopped trying to discourage people from cargo culting facebook’s stack for their 3-person teams or even solo. If someone insists on 10x the complexity and 100x the work, let them. JavaScript is becoming bearable but still too painful for anyone who has touched ruby for example. Meanwhile I’m learning closure and loving every second of it.

8note 5y ago
I find the Facebook stack to have a lot of boilerplate, but overall it's very simple rather than complex. You always know exactly how to implement what you want, without having to think very hard. You can do something small by yourself by writing less code, but using less code makes it more complex since you have to think a lot harder to understand the code when you come back to it in a few years
inopinatus 5y ago
I will pipe up for client-side TypeScript in conjunction with Ruby-based services. I’ve been contributing PRs for Hotwire and it is the first time in 25 years I didn’t actively resent working in JS of any dialect.
- andrei_says_ 5y ago
  Thank you for your contributions. I am super excited about Hotwire - and spending less time doing more.
reader_mode 5y ago
Haha ruby of all things. The language where they create aliases in standard library to make the code "read like natural language"... With a framework that promotes mixins as a service layer/code sharing abstraction and fat models/controllers. I get not wanting to start with a super complex stack, but Ruby and Rails are the worst mainstream framework maintainability wise it's obvious why it fell out of favour.
- TeeMassive 5y ago
  I've heard someone describe Ruby On Rails as: "lots of great magical wands that make great palaces appear out of thin air but always ends up spawning dragons you have to fight"
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TeeMassive 5y ago
Reminds me of this talk https://youtu.be/gfh-VCTwMw8 https://youtu.be/gfh-VCTwMw8

8note 5y ago

I find the Facebook stack to have a lot of boilerplate, but overall it's very simple rather than complex. You always know exactly how to implement what you want, without having to think very hard. You can do something small by yourself by writing less code, but using less code makes it more complex since you have to think a lot harder to understand the code when you come back to it in a few years

inopinatus 5y ago

I will pipe up for client-side TypeScript in conjunction with Ruby-based services. I’ve been contributing PRs for Hotwire and it is the first time in 25 years I didn’t actively resent working in JS of any dialect.

andrei_says_ 5y ago
Thank you for your contributions. I am super excited about Hotwire - and spending less time doing more.

reader_mode 5y ago

Haha ruby of all things. The language where they create aliases in standard library to make the code "read like natural language"... With a framework that promotes mixins as a service layer/code sharing abstraction and fat models/controllers. I get not wanting to start with a super complex stack, but Ruby and Rails are the worst mainstream framework maintainability wise it's obvious why it fell out of favour.

TeeMassive 5y ago
I've heard someone describe Ruby On Rails as: "lots of great magical wands that make great palaces appear out of thin air but always ends up spawning dragons you have to fight"
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TeeMassive 5y ago

Reminds me of this talk https://youtu.be/gfh-VCTwMw8 https://youtu.be/gfh-VCTwMw8