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The theory been around since covid. People were concerned about lab leaks from that particular lab in Wuhan (the one close to the market where it supposedly st

by spinny 5y ago

The theory been around since covid. People were concerned about lab leaks from that particular lab in Wuhan (the one close to the market where it supposedly started) before covid. The research on this type of virus was happening at this lab, they had posted a job opening for a researcher some time before. All the Trump hate going around (an the willingness to go against all-things-Trump) at the time, clouded massively any actions to properly identify the origins and even some preventive actions. Any traces that could only be identify at the time are gone by now, and as time passes, we may have more information but probably less concrete evidence. Sadly the world may end up with only theories

jimmygrapes 5y ago
I think it's going to be really interesting in the future to see if there was anything else that was dismissed or treated with disdain simply because of pure contrarianism to anything with Trump-adjacency. As if all it should have taken for Trump to have won was to have tried baby-tier reverse psychology. I wonder how many otherwise rational and educated people here on HN who hold that hatred still would be willing to analyze their intentions deeply enough to figure out why they hate? I am not interested in justifications, just suggesting some multi-level introspection. Most of the time when I discuss this with younger people, asking "why do you feel that way?" at least 3 times results in a complete blank (or violent/emotional reaction), a blatant cognitive fallacy, or simple trend/peer pressure. The ones who can still answer are those with truly unique ideas, in my experience at least. If anybody reads this and is willing, I'd be glad to hear your take on this.
- whipaway 5y ago
  > if there was anything else that was dismissed or treated with disdain simply because of pure contrarianism to anything with Trump-adjacency It's blindingly clear that you can (remarkably this should raise eyebrows, but in this case it's shamefully close to reality) paint with broad brush-strokes that the entire media/tech/creative class making more than the avg household, that lives in cities, etc. effectively out-sourced their judgement to Trump. The reactions to him were automatic and opposite.

by spinny 5y ago

jimmygrapes 5y ago

I think it's going to be really interesting in the future to see if there was anything else that was dismissed or treated with disdain simply because of pure contrarianism to anything with Trump-adjacency. As if all it should have taken for Trump to have won was to have tried baby-tier reverse psychology. I wonder how many otherwise rational and educated people here on HN who hold that hatred still would be willing to analyze their intentions deeply enough to figure out why they hate? I am not interested in justifications, just suggesting some multi-level introspection. Most of the time when I discuss this with younger people, asking "why do you feel that way?" at least 3 times results in a complete blank (or violent/emotional reaction), a blatant cognitive fallacy, or simple trend/peer pressure. The ones who can still answer are those with truly unique ideas, in my experience at least. If anybody reads this and is willing, I'd be glad to hear your take on this.

whipaway 5y ago
> if there was anything else that was dismissed or treated with disdain simply because of pure contrarianism to anything with Trump-adjacency It's blindingly clear that you can (remarkably this should raise eyebrows, but in this case it's shamefully close to reality) paint with broad brush-strokes that the entire media/tech/creative class making more than the avg household, that lives in cities, etc. effectively out-sourced their judgement to Trump. The reactions to him were automatic and opposite.