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All the Isrealies need to do for lasting peace is stop forcing families out of thieir homes. Its unfortunate the world does not pressure them to do so.

orisho 5y ago
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- Hallucinaut 5y ago
  Associated Press fired these rockets?
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throwawayxyz_ 5y ago
I've read that there was a Supreme Court case on these properties and Jews held the land title since the Ottoman Empire days. Although the case was not as clear cut as what that sentence implies, it wasn't nearly "forcing families out of their homes". It was more (if we're to believe the reports) "forcing people out of homes that they didn't own, after they stopped paying rent which they agreed to pay".
- tguvot 5y ago
  Here you go, the case details: https://www.jns.org/sheikh-jarrah-a-legal-background/ https://www.jns.org/sheikh-jarrah-a-legal-background/
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  - totalZero 5y ago
    Every time my attention is captured by a one-sided article like this about the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians, whether it favors one side or the other, I look online to see whether there's another side to the story. As always, there is[0][1][2]. If your goal was to clarify the dispute, I think you chose a poor article with which to do so. It is difficult to determine who is credible and who is not among many of these specialty publications and nonprofits, and they are rarely circumspect. I doubt that there is a clear legal history to how one family or sect owns land that another family or sect has lived on for half a century or more. It doesn't pass the smell test. In the US we would perhaps discuss prescriptive easement or adverse possession, but in Israel and Palestine most of the legal arguments seem like a smokescreen for strong-arm tactics. [0] http://arabcenterdc.org/policy_analyses/israels-screen-of-legality-behind-the-sheikh-jarrah-dispossession/ http://arabcenterdc.org/policy_analyses/israels-screen-of-le... [1] https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/east-jerusalems-sheikh-jarrah-becomes-emblem-palestinian-struggle-2021-05-10/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/east-jerusalems-sh... [2] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/11/sheikh-jarrah-residents-speak-out-on-israels-forced-expulsions https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/11/sheikh-jarrah-resid...
    - tguvot 5y ago
      Those articles are pretty much absent of any facts with regards to this dispute, while article that I posted presents details of legal cases over past 40 or 50 years and go back 140 years ago to time when land in question was purchased during days of Ottoman empire

orisho 5y ago

Hallucinaut 5y ago
Associated Press fired these rockets?
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throwawayxyz_ 5y ago

I've read that there was a Supreme Court case on these properties and Jews held the land title since the Ottoman Empire days. Although the case was not as clear cut as what that sentence implies, it wasn't nearly "forcing families out of their homes". It was more (if we're to believe the reports) "forcing people out of homes that they didn't own, after they stopped paying rent which they agreed to pay".

tguvot 5y ago
Here you go, the case details: https://www.jns.org/sheikh-jarrah-a-legal-background/ https://www.jns.org/sheikh-jarrah-a-legal-background/
- deleted 5y ago
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- totalZero 5y ago
  Every time my attention is captured by a one-sided article like this about the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians, whether it favors one side or the other, I look online to see whether there's another side to the story. As always, there is[0][1][2]. If your goal was to clarify the dispute, I think you chose a poor article with which to do so. It is difficult to determine who is credible and who is not among many of these specialty publications and nonprofits, and they are rarely circumspect. I doubt that there is a clear legal history to how one family or sect owns land that another family or sect has lived on for half a century or more. It doesn't pass the smell test. In the US we would perhaps discuss prescriptive easement or adverse possession, but in Israel and Palestine most of the legal arguments seem like a smokescreen for strong-arm tactics. [0] http://arabcenterdc.org/policy_analyses/israels-screen-of-legality-behind-the-sheikh-jarrah-dispossession/ http://arabcenterdc.org/policy_analyses/israels-screen-of-le... [1] https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/east-jerusalems-sheikh-jarrah-becomes-emblem-palestinian-struggle-2021-05-10/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/east-jerusalems-sh... [2] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/11/sheikh-jarrah-residents-speak-out-on-israels-forced-expulsions https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/11/sheikh-jarrah-resid...
  - tguvot 5y ago
    Those articles are pretty much absent of any facts with regards to this dispute, while article that I posted presents details of legal cases over past 40 or 50 years and go back 140 years ago to time when land in question was purchased during days of Ottoman empire