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Sorry, you are making no sense. Israel can't and won't try to prevent Gazans from travelling to Europe. It only controls its own borders, just like US vs Mexico

Sorry, you are making no sense. Israel can't and won't try to prevent Gazans from travelling to Europe. It only controls its own borders, just like US vs Mexico. Also Israel would be pretty happy if Gazans could leave and go to Europe, or anywhere else really. That's one key point the "open air prison" claim breaks down completely.

jules-jules 5y ago
Are you fucking kidding me? This is among the most established facts in the whole conflict and you think people are too stupid to do a Google search? This is from the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) after a 10 seconds Google search. https://www.ochaopt.org/content/increased-restrictions-movement-humanitarian-staff-and-out-gaza https://www.ochaopt.org/content/increased-restrictions-movem... >Israel has imposed movement restrictions on the Gaza Strip since the early 1990’s. Restrictions intensified in June 2007, following the takeover of that part of the occupied Palestinian territory (oPt) by Hamas, when Israel imposed a land, sea and air blockade on Gaza, citing security concerns. Despite relaxation of some blockade-related restrictions in recent years, 1.8 million Palestinians in Gaza remain ‘locked in’, denied free access to the remainder of the territory and the outside world. By the way, when I traveled to Israel in 2010 I tried to visit the Gaza strip, boy little did I know. It's literally impossible to go there unless you're there for humanitarian reasons.
- NeverFade 5y ago
  Israel doesn't have to allow Gaza residents into its own borders, no more than the US has to allow Mexican residents, especially since there is ongoing violent conflict between Israel and Gaza. Israel doesn't control movement between Gaza and Egypt. If Egypt is blocking movement at the Gaza-Egypt border, that has nothing to do with Israel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt%E2%80%93Gaza_border https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt%E2%80%93Gaza_border
  - mam3 5y ago
    There is a maritime blocus too, its not just about borders.
  - mam3 5y ago
    Plus its not because they dont "have" to do it that they are not going to deal with the consequences of effectively creating this situation... we are talking about basic hope and freedom and you are talking about "rules" like there is some sort of moral high ground to be had. No one cares about rules when they are starving

jules-jules 5y ago

Are you fucking kidding me? This is among the most established facts in the whole conflict and you think people are too stupid to do a Google search? This is from the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) after a 10 seconds Google search. https://www.ochaopt.org/content/increased-restrictions-movement-humanitarian-staff-and-out-gaza https://www.ochaopt.org/content/increased-restrictions-movem... >Israel has imposed movement restrictions on the Gaza Strip since the early 1990’s. Restrictions intensified in June 2007, following the takeover of that part of the occupied Palestinian territory (oPt) by Hamas, when Israel imposed a land, sea and air blockade on Gaza, citing security concerns. Despite relaxation of some blockade-related restrictions in recent years, 1.8 million Palestinians in Gaza remain ‘locked in’, denied free access to the remainder of the territory and the outside world. By the way, when I traveled to Israel in 2010 I tried to visit the Gaza strip, boy little did I know. It's literally impossible to go there unless you're there for humanitarian reasons.

NeverFade 5y ago
Israel doesn't have to allow Gaza residents into its own borders, no more than the US has to allow Mexican residents, especially since there is ongoing violent conflict between Israel and Gaza. Israel doesn't control movement between Gaza and Egypt. If Egypt is blocking movement at the Gaza-Egypt border, that has nothing to do with Israel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt%E2%80%93Gaza_border https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt%E2%80%93Gaza_border
- mam3 5y ago
  There is a maritime blocus too, its not just about borders.
- mam3 5y ago
  Plus its not because they dont "have" to do it that they are not going to deal with the consequences of effectively creating this situation... we are talking about basic hope and freedom and you are talking about "rules" like there is some sort of moral high ground to be had. No one cares about rules when they are starving