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What is comfortable about traffic, smog and high taxes? I love California, lived there my whole life up until this past January but let’s not forget to take off

What is comfortable about traffic, smog and high taxes? I love California, lived there my whole life up until this past January but let’s not forget to take off our rose colored glasses. Edit: drought, wildfires, income inequality on a huge level, horrible public transport, but there’s beaches, mountains and desert all within a days drive I guess?

bosie 5y ago
Where did you move to if you don’t mind me asking?
- bsagdiyev 5y ago
  Raleigh, NC area. My girlfriend has family out here and we decided to give it a try since we’ve started a family and couldn’t afford the space we needed for our son and extra for our second child when they come along. Ended up buying a house for less than half what it would have cost in San Diego with a nice amount of land and about 20 minutes from downtown Raleigh on an average day. We lost the beaches and desert but still have mountains and lots of green areas nearby. My only complaint is I need to make California burritos at home as that’s not really a thing here (go figure) but we love it so far otherwise.
  - vidanay 5y ago
    We are coming to Chapel Hill soon. Love the Triangle.
zepto 5y ago
Smog hasn’t been a thing in california doe a while. Traffic certainly is. High taxes are a tautology and can’t be factored in here because they are just part of the cost side of the equation. If you are arguing that California is objectively undesirable compared to other places on the list, then how do you account for the demand?
- bsagdiyev 5y ago
  Where do you live? Ever driven the 210, 91, 215 or 15 around the Riverside/San Bernardino area? Smog is absolutely still a thing. Bakersfield has the worst air in the US. California is absolutely desirable and I never said it wasn’t. But your reasons for it being the top spots don’t jive with what people actually feel or think. A lot of houses are being sold sight unseen for cash, sometimes up to 25+% over offer, just to be rented out for a profit by someone from out of state the demand is propped up by this as well as normal migration in.
  - zepto 5y ago
    Bay Area doesn’t have smog. California in general doesn’t have smog. The cities listed in the report don’t. Obviously California has some places that are not desirable to live. Bakersfield for sure. > But your reasons for it being the top spots don’t jive with what people actually feel or think. Here you claim that people do not think the places with high housing prices in California have good weather, amenities, natural beauty and jobs. > A lot of houses are being sold sight unseen for cash, sometimes up to 25+% over offer, just to be rented out for a profit by someone from out of state the demand is propped up by this as well as normal migration in. Here you claim that housing prices in California are driven by out of state speculators buying housing as rental properties. Is there any source for this claim? It seems unlikely, given that rents are not keeping pace with housing prices. Also if California is not desirable in the ways I said it is, why would people want to rent from these speculators?

bosie 5y ago

Where did you move to if you don’t mind me asking?

bsagdiyev 5y ago
Raleigh, NC area. My girlfriend has family out here and we decided to give it a try since we’ve started a family and couldn’t afford the space we needed for our son and extra for our second child when they come along. Ended up buying a house for less than half what it would have cost in San Diego with a nice amount of land and about 20 minutes from downtown Raleigh on an average day. We lost the beaches and desert but still have mountains and lots of green areas nearby. My only complaint is I need to make California burritos at home as that’s not really a thing here (go figure) but we love it so far otherwise.
- vidanay 5y ago
  We are coming to Chapel Hill soon. Love the Triangle.

zepto 5y ago

Smog hasn’t been a thing in california doe a while. Traffic certainly is. High taxes are a tautology and can’t be factored in here because they are just part of the cost side of the equation. If you are arguing that California is objectively undesirable compared to other places on the list, then how do you account for the demand?

bsagdiyev 5y ago
Where do you live? Ever driven the 210, 91, 215 or 15 around the Riverside/San Bernardino area? Smog is absolutely still a thing. Bakersfield has the worst air in the US. California is absolutely desirable and I never said it wasn’t. But your reasons for it being the top spots don’t jive with what people actually feel or think. A lot of houses are being sold sight unseen for cash, sometimes up to 25+% over offer, just to be rented out for a profit by someone from out of state the demand is propped up by this as well as normal migration in.
- zepto 5y ago
  Bay Area doesn’t have smog. California in general doesn’t have smog. The cities listed in the report don’t. Obviously California has some places that are not desirable to live. Bakersfield for sure. > But your reasons for it being the top spots don’t jive with what people actually feel or think. Here you claim that people do not think the places with high housing prices in California have good weather, amenities, natural beauty and jobs. > A lot of houses are being sold sight unseen for cash, sometimes up to 25+% over offer, just to be rented out for a profit by someone from out of state the demand is propped up by this as well as normal migration in. Here you claim that housing prices in California are driven by out of state speculators buying housing as rental properties. Is there any source for this claim? It seems unlikely, given that rents are not keeping pace with housing prices. Also if California is not desirable in the ways I said it is, why would people want to rent from these speculators?